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« Reply #60 on: October 30, 2007, 10:36:28 AM »

Link TV and Mosaic TV are good sources, but they don’t provide a meta-view and historical context of the underlying power structures, so you just get a confusing mix of current events. Even tho it is antizionist this set of sites offers the best depth view and media hub I have found so far, but I have only JUST started to look around it. I will watch 911 Mysteries tonight…I heard an interview with the maker Sofia, linked to these sites.
Probably the best overview of DU also:
 www.iamthewitness.com/Video-Uranium.html

What I don't get is all this fuss over Iran and A weapons, when the US has been spreading A weapon fallout all over the middle east for almost 10 years...I mean pull the fricking log out of your own eye for God'sake!
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/05/us-feverishly-works-to-frame-iran_13.html

Smiths vs. Jones. It is amusing that this Smith guy poopoos Alex Jones, not sure why yet other than being an alternative news rival.
How the Cheney gang thought they could get away with A bombing US cities is beyond me. Five more upstanding citizens died in that little charade.
Daryl Bradford Smith said that pertinent questions are being asked in congress now so here's hoping the house of cards will come down.

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DBS & Muhammad Rafeeq on Archibald Maule Ramsay's book The Nameless War, The Illuminati and other issues.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/

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« Reply #61 on: October 30, 2007, 12:10:26 PM »

ah, ok, i see what you're talking about now.  i must have clicked on the wrong link.  not interested enuf to track it down, but wonder who's behind that site.   right now i'm getting a little sick of all the Abrahamic religions.  the attrocities on all three sides in the name of their "one true god"(who is the same, although they keep forgetting about it) is baffling to me. like spoiled children they're ready to do whatever it takes to prove that "dad" likes me best.
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« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2007, 12:31:25 PM »

we're talking about the planetary haunted house Shocked...casper
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« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2007, 12:47:01 PM »

911 Mysteries 1 1/2 hours:



Very good C-Span recorded speech by David Ray Griffin in 2005




There's 4 1/2 hours for you, of fairly compressed info. Enjoy!  Purge  Purge  Purge
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« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2007, 03:27:33 PM »

Check this out.  In particular, move to about 14 mins into it.  Silverstein's interview you probably already know about, but what about the BBC thing?  Can that be for real?

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« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2007, 04:59:39 PM »

   right now i'm getting a little sick of all the Abrahamic religions.  the attrocities on all three sides

Right, and I am likewise a little sick of those, on every side, who have enough of a political/economic agenda to invest time and money in media minutes to push it into someone else's face. I can find no reason to believe any of them. When it comes to pushing agendas (and "I'm the one with the real news..." is just as much a manipulative agenda as, "we have proof that Saddam has WMDs,") there ain't no good guys out there. They will all tell you a lie outright or distort the truth.

We all watched John Doerr push his biofuel agenda. But he didn't tell us this following quote that comes from a publication called Energy Tribune which is also known for its stance against Bush and big oil.
 
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The latest indictment of biofuels concerns the copious quantities of water needed to produce them. In late June, two Colorado scientists, Jan F. Kreider, an engineering professor at the University of Colorado, and Peter S. Curtiss, a Boulder-based engineering consultant, presented their peer-reviewed report, “Comprehensive Evaluation of Impacts from Potential, Future Automotive Fuel Replacements” at a conference sponsored by the American Society of Mechanical Engineers. The two found that producing one gallon of corn ethanol requires the consumption of 170 gallons of water. That figure includes the amount needed for all irrigation and distillation. For comparison, the two scientists estimated that each gallon of gasoline requires just 5 gallons of water. If Kreider and Curtiss are right, the 5 billion gallons of corn ethanol produced in America in 2006 required more water than production of the 140 billion gallons of gasoline the U.S. consumed that year.

The numbers for soybean-based biodiesel were even worse. Kreider and Curtiss calculated that each gallon requires a whopping 900 gallons of water. Cellulosic ethanol was slightly better than either, requiring some 146 gallons of water per gallon. When asked about the U.S. Senate’s version of the energy bill mandating the production of 36 billion gallons of ethanol per year by 2022 (most of which presumably will come from cellulosic ethanol), Kreider told us that even if there were a proven production method for cellulosic ethanol, “there’s not enough land, not enough water, and not enough transportation infrastructure to provide [that] quantity of fuel.”

What about CO2 emissions? Kreider and Curtiss say that while soy biodiesel’s are comparable to conventional gasoline, corn ethanol is a loser. During the entire life cycle of ethanol, carbon dioxide emissions are “about 50 percent larger for ethanols than for traditional fossil fuels; such fuels are not the answer to global warming, they make it worse.” Go to www.fuelsandenergy.com, to read the study.

Most people have known for years that ethanol can cut down on petroleum based air pollution--smog, but how can burning a carbon based substance in an oxygen rich atmosphere cut down on Carbon dioxide? It doesn't compute. So what is Doerr trying to do besides manipulate his audience? The man is personally worth over $1 billion. Do you think he might be putting his mouth where his money goes? His attempt to stampede the viewer into hysteria over global warming is no better and no worse than the Cheny/Bush attempts to stampede people into hysteria over Iraq's WMDs, or the stampede attempts re 911 "truths." If the conspiracies are proven true it will not surprise me one bit nor make a single fundamental change in my life. Same things are true if they are ignored or proven false. There is this thing called the Will to Power. The internet fulfills its finest purpose by vomiting it all across the world. Purge

Since the mid-60s I've been watching and listening to vomiting folks from the likes of Doerr to that fundamentally laughable DBS of "i am the witless.com" and it is a terrific side-show. Its entertainment, reality TV, plus something of a morbid lesson on the quality of human culture. Good for a sick joke, but you don't want to get any of it on you. It is demeaning. And one can do just as much for humanity, maybe more, by not being effected by the loud, the sentimental, the frightening agendas.
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« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2007, 05:58:05 PM »

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Its entertainment, reality TV, plus something of a morbid lesson on the quality of human culture. Good for a sick joke, but you don't want to get any of it on you. It is demeaning. And one can do just as much for humanity, maybe more, by not being effected by the loud, the sentimental, the frightening agendas.

Shhh! You might wake the kids!  Cool
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« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2007, 06:19:33 PM »

Yea ethanol is not a good choice for States since it is lagging behind  in its changeover and it will for sure have water and fertilizer problems, not to mention soil. Brazil however is already making the ethanol choice work for them, but their conditions are very different. The States will have to go high tech fast, as it will with HHO and Magnegas, but unless the investment money starts flowing then progress will be slow. Perhaps now you could come out with a waterfuel car injector system without getting knocked off. Then there is that radio frequency water burner guy. For all we know DU could be used in a new form of energy generation, but the US has already shipped all their DU over to the Middle East. boxing

NOthing adds up about the blasted towers, or should I say everything adds up perfectly. It is funny that so much of the history was caught on film, with the perpetrators blundering all over the place. Lets just pull it shall we? Just pull it.

Seems like I saw 911 in dreams in the 90's...an spaceage military fighter plane dream in the desert; another dream where a guy goes up to a petrol station, opens a box on the outside wall, flips a switch and two atomic stems occur which could be interpreted as the towers...then I am trying to avoid seeping riverlets of atomic poison on the floor of an office and accidentally some of the stuff touches my toe, I crawl out the back windows. And even my Solaris vision with the arches and tower...appeared on 911 from the shores of NJ, there is that pyramid topped tower, both the plumes of smoke and arches of falling debris formed the arch shapes as in the vision.

Other than my exmotherinlaw informing me that breeding rates should increase due to radiation...there hasn't been any catastrophic dream material since all that activity in the 90's.
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« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2007, 11:30:00 PM »

That's interesting about the 9-11 dreams Jana.  Sorta reminds me of an article I transcribed last year:
http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/1656

Well since all news and politics really comes down to entertainment (as per Neil Postman), and there's so damned much BAD entertainment in politics, we might as well have a look at some fairly decent entertainment.  I give you Robert Newman's History of Oil:

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« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2007, 11:54:10 AM »

We face an unpresidented situation where we have to fight both our nausea, hardening, fear, disgust, apathy, depression, and amusement etc...related to news. We have to put news into its historical context while simultaneously making intelligent predictions...all this in order to know where we fit into the picture and our course of highest moral action.
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/007452.html  —New Zealand aims to be the first carbon neutral country.

The 911 Mysteries is definitely the best documentary yet, I do hope Sofia continues as she needs to cover the planes and the nazi-like extermination of the passengers on the planes that flew into Cleveland. The killing of those passengers is somehow an even worse crime than the 3000 in the Towers.

The Cleveland Airport Mystery - September 11
9/11 plane made emergency landing Cleveland Airport was it delta 1989 or flight 93 bomb reported akron mayor 911 FAA evacuation NASA passenger.
911review.org/inn.globalfreepress/Cleveland_Airport_Mystery.html
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iG6pJUCQfg  —Secret plan for continuity of govt.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9_5aBU33E —Martial Law training?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jatpX6kuxHQ  —Emergency Total Power (May’07)

August 29-30 nuclear weapons incident…Hopefully this was Cheneys last wad.  Put simply, six 150-kiloton warheads were improperly attached to six Advanced Cruise Missiles, all loaded onto a wing launch pod, and then mounted on the wing of a B-52 H Stratofortress at Minot, along with six similar missiles with dummy warheads, which were loaded onto a launch pod on the plane's other wing, an all 12 were improperly and illegally flown across the country to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana; since 1991, it has been illegal to even load nuclear weapons on a plane, period; six mysterious violent deaths of Air Force personnel from Minot and Barksdale, Barksdale prepares B-52s for duty in the Middle East Theater; Full article:www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/57

The Minot-Barksdale incident could have been a decoy to allow for this: “Secretary Robert Gates ordered an unprecedented stand-down of all air bases in mid-September to check out and account for the entire nuclear inventory”…could a stand down provide an opportunity to steal the real bombs.  We need to know if the Vice President’s office was behind the flight of those six warheads.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTb3SLa_2VE  —Stealing Iraqi Oil
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok0PbYHXicM —War Profiteering
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWCs29tZnYA  —War on Error
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh9yXaTPhts&NR=1  —Courage to create a New America.

Bush: "... childrens do learn when standards are high and results are measured." Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in UN address, obviously with the retarded American president in mind: "I think the politicians who are after atomic bombs or are testing them, making them, politically, they are backward, retarded."
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Media outlets uncritically reported White House claim that it does not "employ" fake reporting
Summary: News outlets including CNN, the Associated Press, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times uncritically quoted White House spokeswoman Dana Perino's response to a question about an October 23 Federal Emergency Management Agency press conference, in which the questions were asked by FEMA staffers playing reporters. Perino said of the conference, "It is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House and we certainly don't condone it." But these news outlets failed to note previous Bush administration scandals involving "fake" reporting.
 

Reports on CNN and in the Associated Press, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times uncritically quoted White House spokeswoman Dana Perino's response to a question about an October 23 Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) press conference, in which, as Washington Post columnist Al Kamen reported, "the questions were asked by FEMA staffers playing reporters." Perino said of the conference, "It is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House and we certainly don't condone it." But as Media Matters for America has documented, the Bush administration has a history of generating "fake" news.

Several media reports uncritically included Perino's response to the press conference without noting past Bush administration scandals involving "fake" reporting:

An October 26 Associated Press article led by uncritically noting that "[t]he White House scolded" FEMA, adding that Perino "said it was not appropriate that the questions were posed by agency staffers instead of reporters."
An October 27 New York Times article stated that the conference "drew a rebuke from the White House and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff," adding that Perino said: "It's not something I would have condoned ... And they -- I'm sure -- will not do it again."
An October 27 Los Angeles Times article stated that "[t]he White House was not happy with FEMA's response," adding Perino's quote: "It is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House."
An October 27 Washington Post article uncritically included Perino's quote: "White House press secretary Dana Perino said yesterday that 'it is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House. We certainly don't condone it. We didn't know about it beforehand. . . . They, I'm sure, will not do it again.' "
In an October 29 Washington Post online discussion, staff writer and media critic Howard Kurtz wrote: "I don't think it's fair to blame the White House for this. Dana Perino made it quite clear that the White House did not approve of this make-believe event." Kurtz later noted Bush administration journalism scandals involving conservative columnist Armstrong Williams and "a couple of other commentators," but did not contrast these scandals with Perino's reported disapproval of the FEMA press conference.
On the October 29 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, correspondent Jeanne Meserve reported that "[t]he White House distanced itself" from the FEMA conference and then aired Perino's quote.
As Media Matters noted, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found that the Bush administration's use of video news releases (VNRs) -- video reports that appeared to be created by journalists instead of the government and, as The New York Times reported, many of which "were subsequently broadcast on local stations across the country without any acknowledgement of the government's role in their production" -- was in violation of federal law. A May 12, 2005, statement by GAO Managing Associate General Counsel Susan A. Poling noted:

In the past year, GAO has issued two legal opinions on the production of video news releases (VNRs) that included prepackaged news stories by both the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP). In both of these instances, we concluded that the agencies violated the federal government-wide prohibition on the use of appropriated funds for purposes of publicity or propaganda not authorized by Congress.

Media Matters has documented numerous instances in which former White House press secretary Scott McClellan turned to former Talon News "Washington Bureau Chief" Jeff Gannon -- whose real name, James Guckert, was uncovered by bloggers in February 2005 -- for softball questions, particularly during heated press conferences. In early 2005, after Media Matters and others raised questions about his work, Gannon resigned from Talon News. One week later, the Talon News website -- operated by Republican activist Bobby Eberle -- was shut down and all articles deleted. Media Matters has documented several instances in which Gannon lifted text directly from Republican materials and sources.

The Bush administration has also paid journalists for support on specific issues:

As Media Matters noted, the Los Angeles Times reported on November 30, 2005, that "the U.S. military is secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories written by American troops in an effort to burnish the image of the U.S. mission in Iraq." The Times added that a multinational military task force had "purchased an Iraqi newspaper and taken control of a radio station, and was using them to channel pro-American messages to the Iraqi public."
Armstrong Williams' column was dropped by his syndicator, Tribune Media Services, following USA Today's report that the Bush administration paid him $240,000 to promote its No Child Left Behind education policy, as Media Matters noted.
As Media Matters noted, on January 26, 2005, Kurtz reported: "In 2002, syndicated columnist Maggie Gallagher repeatedly defended President Bush's push for a $300 million initiative encouraging marriage as a way of strengthening families. ... But Gallagher failed to mention that she had a $21,500 contract with the Department of Health and Human Services to help promote the president's proposal."
On September 8, 2006, The Miami Herald reported that "[a]t least 10 South Florida journalists, including three from El Nuevo Herald, received regular payments from the U.S. government for programs on Radio Martí and TV Martí, two broadcasters aimed at undermining the communist government of Fidel Castro. The payments totaled thousands of dollars over several years. ... Pablo Alfonso, who reports on Cuba and writes an opinion column, was paid almost $175,000 since 2001 ... and staff reporter Wilfredo Cancio Isla, who covers the Cuban exile community and politics, was paid almost $15,000 in the last five years."
From the October 26 White House press briefing:

Q: Dana, on Tuesday, FEMA's deputy administrator held what was called a news briefing to talk about the California wildfires. And from what we understand, the questions were posed not by reporters, but by staffers, and that distinction was not made known. Is that appropriate?

PERINO: It is not. It is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House or that we -- we certainly don't condone it. We didn't know about it beforehand. FEMA has issued an apology, saying that they had an error in judgment when they were attempting to try to get out a lot of information to reporters, who were asking for answers to a variety of questions in regards to the wildfires in California. It's not something I would have condoned, and they, I'm sure, will not do it again.

Q: Who is responsible?

PERINO: FEMA is responsible, and they have taken that -- they have accepted that responsibility, and they issued an apology today.

Q: But isn't -- a follow-up on that. Isn't there a normal morning call with all the press secretaries of all the agencies here, and whether somebody is having a press briefing or not is discussed?

PERINO: We have a variety of ways that we talk to the -- communicate to the communicators in the agency. FEMA is not on that daily call, no, and I don't know if the DHS -- the head of DHS communications knew about it either. But FEMA has apologized for the error in judgment.

Q: Dana, why didn't this raise alarm bells, in terms of credibility, with anyone there?

PERINO: You'll have to ask them. They have admitted that they had an error in judgment. I would agree with that. They've issued an apology. You'll have to ask them about why they decided to do that.

Q: But isn't the President concerned, at a time when he is traveling to the area to talk about a very significant natural disaster -- there have been issues about FEMA in the past, trying to make a distinction about progress made, and for them to effectively pretend to hold a news conference, doesn't the President have concerns about that?

PERINO: I just said that the White House did not know about it before hand, and the White House condones* [sic] it. And they have apologized for it. They had an error in judgment, they've admitted that. And I think that what they were -- I don't think that there was any mal-intent. I think that they were trying to provide information to the public through the press, because there were so many questions pouring in. It was just a bad way to handle it, and they know that.

Q: Will anybody be reprimanded?

PERINO: You'll have to ask FEMA.

From the October 26 Associated Press article:

The White House scolded the Federal Emergency Management Agency on Friday for staging a phony news conference about assistance to victims of wildfires in southern California.

The agency much maligned for its sluggish response to Hurricane Katrina over two years ago arranged to have FEMA employees play the part of independent reporters Tuesday and ask questions of Vice Adm. Harvey E. Johnson, the agency's deputy director.

The questions were predictably soft and gratuitous.

"I'm very happy with FEMA's response," Johnson said in reply to one query from an agency employee.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said it was not appropriate that the questions were posed by agency staffers instead of reporters. FEMA was responsible for the "error in judgment," she said, adding that the White House did not know about it beforehand and did not condone it.

"FEMA has issued an apology, saying that they had an error in judgment when they were attempting to get out a lot of information to reporters, who were asking for answers to a variety of questions in regard to the wildfires in California," Perino said. "It's not something I would have condoned. And they I'm sure will not do it again."

She said the agency was just trying to provide information to the public, through the press, because there were so many questions.

"I don't think that there was any mal-intent," Perino said "It was just a bad way to handle it, and they know that."

FEMA gave real reporters only 15 minutes notice about Tuesday's news conference . But because there was so little advance notice, the agency made available an 800 number so reporters could call in. And many did, although it was a listen-only arrangement.

From the October 27 New York Times:

The action, first reported on Friday in The Washington Post, drew a rebuke from the White House and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, and an apology from the agency official who was at the lectern, Harvey E. Johnson, the deputy director.

"We have made it clear that such a stunt will never be tolerated or repeated," a spokeswoman for the department, Laura C. Keehner, said on behalf of Mr. Chertoff.

The questions from the staff were posed after FEMA gave reporters only 15 minutes notice for a news conference on Tuesday, meaning that other than television camera crews, no reporters showed up before questioning began. A toll-free telephone line was provided so reporters could listen in, but it was not set up to allow questions.

As a result, staff members asked Mr. Johnson a series of friendly questions like, "Are you happy with FEMA's response so far?" and, "What lessons learned from Katrina have been applied?"

Mr. Johnson gave no indication that the questions came from his own staff.

"I'm very happy with FEMA's response so far," Mr. Johnson said in response to one question, according to a transcript.

Dana Perino, the White House spokeswoman, said the event was mishandled. "It's not something I would have condoned," she said. "And they -- I'm sure -- will not do it again."

From the October 27 Los Angeles Times article:

On Friday, however, the agency admitted that the softball questions were posed by FEMA employees, not reporters.

The White House was not happy with FEMA's response.

"It is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House," said Press Secretary Dana Perino, mentioning three times that it was an "error in judgment." "It's not something I would have condoned, and they, I'm sure, will not do it again."

The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees FEMA, was less happy.

"This is inexcusable and offensive, and stunts like this will not be tolerated or repeated," said spokeswoman Laura Keehner. "It was a lapse of judgment, and we find it offensive, and it won't happen again."

The Federal Emergency Management Agency apologized for the event, but protested that it was not intended to deceive. FEMA announced the news conference with 15 minutes' notice and provided an 800 number for reporters, but it was not set up to take questions. When no reporters showed up, FEMA provided stand-ins to ask questions and a video feed. Several channels broadcast parts of the event live.

From the October 27 Washington Post article:

"It was absolutely a bad decision. I regret it happened. Certainly . . . I should have stopped it," said John P. "Pat" Philbin, FEMA's director of external affairs. "I hope readers understand we're working very hard to establish credibility and integrity, and I would hope this does not undermine it."

White House press secretary Dana Perino said yesterday that "it is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House. We certainly don't condone it. We didn't know about it beforehand. . . . They, I'm sure, will not do it again."

Department of Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke called the staged briefing "totally unacceptable," adding, "While it is an isolated incident, that does not make it any more tolerable." He said reprimands are "very probable." FEMA is part of DHS.

From Kurtz's October 29 "Media Backtalk" discussion on washingtonpost.com:

Washington: I cannot believe the White House spokesman's response to the FEMA "press conference" was that the White House wouldn't do it with staffers pretending to be journalists asking questions. The White House response should have been "it was wrong" -- that's it, nothing else. It was wrong. And they wonder why FEMA is the butt of jokes?

washingtonpost.com: FEMA Meets the Press, Which Happens to Be ... FEMA (Post, Oct. 26)

Howard Kurtz: Michael Chertoff, who oversees FEMA as the Homeland Security chief, says the bogus news conference is the dumbest thing he's seen in government in a long time, and I agree. How anyone at FEMA thought this was a remotely acceptable idea, and thought they could get away with it, boggles the imagination. (Especially since FEMA's response to the California wildfires had been decent, and now this is the only thing anyone will remember.) But I don't think it's fair to blame the White House for this. Dana Perino made it quite clear that the White House did not approve of this make-believe event.

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Mount Rainier, Md. -- FEMA fakes it!: While the FEMA news-fake-rence may be the worst of the worst ideas, it's not actually a new occurrence in this administration. The Department of Education has paid columnists to write favorably about its programs, and I recall at least one other agency releasing "fake" news stories produced inside the bureaucracy that ran on local television as legit news. I bet no one gets fired. What can we as citizens do to make sure the president and vice president understand that we won't tolerate this sort of thing?

Howard Kurtz: I don't know what average folks can do, but it's our job as journalists to expose this whenever we can. That happened in the case of Armstrong Williams, who was getting federal funding from the Education Department while talking up No Child Left Behind, and in the case of a couple of other commentators, one of which was a story that I broke. Governments are always going to push the envelope when it comes to influencing public opinion, and we need to play the role of honest cops.

From the October 29 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

MESERVE: It looked like a press conference --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, this is the FEMA press briefing for --

MESERVE: -- sounded like a press conference. Only problem -- there wasn't any press: FEMA staffers asked the questions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you happy with FEMA's response so far?

HARVEY E. JOHNSON JR. (FEMA chief operating officer and deputy administrator): I'm very happy with FEMA's response so far.

MESERVE: The Society of Professional Journalists calls it a "blatant abuse of public trust." They aren't alone.

STEPHEN HESS (Brookings Institution senior fellow emeritus): This is a blot. This is a stain on government, public affairs.

MESERVE: The White House distanced itself.

PERINO: It is not a practice that we would employ here at the White House and that we -- we certainly don't condone it.

MESERVE: The secretary of homeland security expressed disgust.

CHERTOFF: I think it was one of the dumbest and most inappropriate things I've seen since I've been in government.

MESERVE: And now, an apology from the head of FEMA: David Paulison called CNN to say the press conference was "ridiculous," "not acceptable," and "it won't happen again."

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« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2007, 11:22:32 PM »

this is a 4 part documentary..

This chilling documentary film examines the relationship between the media, corporate America, and government. In a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", the film argues that the media system is nothing but a "subsidiary of corporate America."

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/_CJoTcYZpqE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/_CJoTcYZpqE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/hAfspjCTdak" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/hAfspjCTdak</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ufr_a1Ym_tI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ufr_a1Ym_tI</a>

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« Reply #73 on: November 08, 2007, 10:09:51 PM »

george carlin on the american dream


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« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2007, 11:42:46 PM »

Yay, there are some brave souls in the US afterall...cool, likes like it is afoot!
They need to bring up and investigate the most dangerous event of 2007-the A-bomb scare, figure out direct links to Cheney-Bush and what those bombs were going to be used for and then the Impeachment is a done deal.

 Impeachment Hotting Up

Thanks to the persistence of Dennis Kucinich, and the clamor from the American public, such that even the politicians cannot ignore, there is a chance now for impeachment to break out.

See the three items below, and Please call the House Judiciary Committee to ask that they hold Impeachment hearings, and follow their oaths to protect the country from threats to our Constitution, foreign or domestic.  Has there ever been a greater domestic threat to our Constitution and populace than Dick Cheney?

Call the House Judiciary Committee TODAY: 202-225-3951.

Demand full and thorough hearings on H.Res. 799/333, Rep. Dennis Kucinich's bill on the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney.


Dave Lindorff: Suddenly, Impeachment Hearings are Starting to Look Likely

Submitted by BuzzFlash on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 4:17pm. Dave Lindorff

You wouldn't know it if you just watch TV news or read the corporate press, but this past Tuesday, something remarkable happened. Despite the pig-headed opposition of the Democratic Party's top congressional leadership, a majority of the House, including three Republicans, voted to send Dennis Kucinich's long sidelined Cheney impeachment bill (H Res 333) to the Judiciary Committee for hearings.

The vote was 218 to 194.

Now the behind-the-scenes partisan maneuvering that preceded that vote was arcane indeed, with Kucinich first exercising a member's privilege motion to present his stymied impeachment bill to the full House, only to have Speaker Nancy Pelosi arrange for a colleague (Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-MD) to offer a motion to table it. The Republicans, anxious to embarrass the Speaker, threw a wrench into that plan, though, by voting as a bloc to oppose tabling. Since Kucinich already has 22 co-sponsors for his bill, it was clear that the tabling gambit would fail. As soon as that became apparent, rank-and-file Democrats, unwilling to be seen by their constituents as defending Cheney, rushed to change their votes to opposing the tabling motion. In the end, tabling failed by 242 to 170 with 77 Democrats supporting a pleasantly surprised Kucinich.


To avoid a floor debate on the merits of impeaching the eminently impeachable Vice President Cheney, Pelosi and her allies then moved to send Kucinich's bill directly to the Judiciary Committee. They were joined by three Republicans, including maverick Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX).

Now the hope of the Democratic leadership is that this means Kucinich's impeachment bill will continue to be safely bottled up in a subcommittee of the Judiciary Committee. But it may not work out that way for them.

Whatever the explanation, this impeachment bill has been endorsed by a floor vote of the full House, with bipartisan support.

For the Judiciary Committee to sit on it now and not schedule a hearing would be a gross travesty of parliamentary procedure and custom.

Indeed, some House members not associated with Kucinich's resolution are now openly calling for immediate hearings into Cheney's impeachable actions -- specifically lying the country into a war in Iraq and threatening war with Iran.

One indication of the change in the political climate in the House is the announcement by Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), a six-term congressman and a member of the House Judiciary Committee, that he will call for the Judiciary Committee to take up Kucinich's impeachment bill. This is significant because Wexler, no left-wing hothead, is not a co-signer of the Kucinich bill.

In an e-mail message to constituents, Wexler said: "I share your belief that Vice President Cheney must answer for his deceptive actions in office, particularly with regard to the preparations for the Iraq war and the revelation of the identity of covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson as part of political retribution against her husband."

"...Cheney and the Bush Administration have demonstrated a consistent pattern of abusing the law and misleading Congress and the American people. We see the consequences of these actions abroad in Iraq and at home through the violations of our civil liberties. The American people are served well with a legitimate and thorough impeachment inquiry. I will urge the Judiciary Committee to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months. Only through hearings can we begin to correct the abuses of Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration; and if it is determined in these hearings that Vice President Cheney has committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors, he should be impeached and removed from office. It is time for Congress to expose the multitude of misdeeds of the Administration and I am hopeful that the Judiciary Committee will expeditiously begin an investigation of this matter."

Also calling for prompt action by the Judiciary Committee in the wake of the Tuesday House vote was Carol Shea-Porter, a first-term Democrat from New Hampshire, who also is not a sponsor of the Kucinich measure. In explaining her vote to send the Kucinich bill to the Judiciary Committee, she said:

"It is the duty of the Vice President to faithfully execute the laws of the United States of America and to defend the Constitution. There is growing evidence that the Executive Branch has ignored some of our laws and has attempted to bend the Constitution to its will. Members of both parties decided that this issue is too important to ignore. I voted with my Republican and Democratic colleagues to investigate the Vice President's actions in office."

She characterized the resolution sending the bill to the Judiciary Committee a "strongly bipartisan vote."

With these kinds of endorsements and calls for action, it is clear that Speaker Pelosi is looking increasingly pathetic and out of touch with her "impeachment is off the table" mantra, and also that Judiciary Chair John Conyers (D-MI), who seems to have been intimidated by the Speaker for the past year, but who earlier had been a leader in exposing the crimes of the Bush/Cheney Administration, is getting strong support for taking a bolder stand.

Stephen Cohen (D-TN), a member of the Judiciary Committee who is a co-sponsor of the Kucinich resolution, says he thinks that there will be an impeachment hearing in the committee.


The 22 House members who have already signed on as co-sponsors of Kucinich's Cheney impeachment resolution are: Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), Maxine Waters (D-CA), Hank Johnson (D-GA), Keith Ellison (D-MN), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Albert Wynn (D-MD), William Lacy Clay (D-MO), Yvette Clarke (D-NY), Jim McDermott (D-WA), Jim Moran (D-VA), Bob Filner (D-CA), Sam Farr (D-CA), Robert Brady (D-PA), Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), Donald Payne (D-NJ), Steve Cohen (D-TN), Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX), Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI), Ed Towns (D-NY), Diane Watson (D-CA), and Danny Davis (D-IL).

The change in attitude toward impeachment among the rank and file, and the evident increasing willingness to buck the Speaker, reflects growing awareness of the groundswell of popular anger with the Bush Administration and the Democratic Congress over continued funding of the Iraq War, and over continued erosion of Constitutional government and civil liberties by an administration that wants unfettered executive power and by a Congress that is afraid to act.

The latest polls show three in four Democrats in favor of impeaching the vice president and president, while a majority of all Americans favor impeaching the vice president and roughly half of all Americans favor impeaching the president.

This is before hearings and presentation of evidence have even begun!

The Democratic strategy for the 2008 election has been to do nothing overly confrontational, to pass no significant legislation, to collect lots of money from corporate interests, and to hope the Republican Party, saddled with an unpopular administration and an unpopular war, will implode.

The strategy, however, is proving to be a disaster, as public support for the Democratic do-nothing Congress has fallen even below the president's record low numbers. Just running against Republicans, Bush/Cheney, and the continuing war risks seeing Democrats go down to defeat in '08.

It is awareness of this looming electoral disaster that underlies the growing restiveness among rank-and-file Democrats in the House, all of whom have to face the voters in less than a year's time.

As recently as a month ago, it didn't look like impeachment was in the cards; Now it's starting to look like Cheney's going to be put in the dock.

It may not be long before we start to see bills of impeachment filed against President Bush too.

The corporate media enjoy making fun of Rep. Kucinich, a height-challenged but dedicated progressive who has made a career of standing tall for his views. If his bill ends up leading to impeachment hearings against Cheney, Kucinich will end up having the last laugh.


Call the House Judiciary Committee TODAY: 202-225-3951.

Demand full and thorough hearings on H.Res. 799/333, Rep. Dennis Kucinich's bill on the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney.

See below for more ways to take action!

There's almost always some strange twist to how things move through Congress. The most recent example was just this past Tuesday, Nov. 6th, when 165 Republicans voted to force a debate on the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney, and Democrats voted against it. Somehow both parties thought that an open debate about the crimes of Dick Cheney would embarrass the Democrats.

Here is what happened: As promised, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH) requested a floor vote on H.Res. 799 (formerly H.Res. 333), a bill he had introduced to move a process to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney forward. Rep. Steny Hoyer -- who as Majority Leader is in the second highest position in the House -- moved to table the bill. Then all hell broke loose, as 165 Republicans voted with Rep. Kucinich and 85 other brave Democrats to force a debate on impeachment.

Determined to block that debate, Rep. Hoyer moved to send H.Res. 799 back to the Judiciary Committee. That motion passed with the support of all but 5 Democrats (Kucinich, Bob Filner, Marcy Kaptur, Maxine Waters, and Ed Towns). Read a live blog of the proceedings here.

 

United for Peace and Justice recognizes the significance of this development, and we urge you to help move this process forward. Here are some things you can do:

1. Call the House Judiciary Committee at 202-225-3951 and demand full and thorough hearings on H.Res. 799/333.

2. Sign this petition to Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic members of the House Judiciary Committee.

3. If you live in the district of a House Judiciary Committee member, call his or her office and say that you're a constituent and you want immediate hearings on H.Res. 799/333. (Click here to look up your rep and find out if he or she is on the committee.) You can also join a local Congressional District Impeachment Committee and organize activities to keep the pressure on your representative, with letters to the editor, calls to local radio talk shows, and pointed questions at every community forum attended by your representative.

4. If your representative is not on the House Judiciary Committee, call and ask him or her to co-sponsor H.Res. 799/333. (Click here to find his or her office phone numbers.) If your rep is one of the 22 who have already co-sponsored H.Res. 333, call and offer your thanks and urge him or her push for immediate hearings on H.Res. 799/333 in the House Judiciary Committee.

5. Start a media campaign, including op-ed articles on impeaching Cheney, letters-to-the-editor about the Kucinich resolution, and informational picketing in front of the offices of local media. Click here to find a media activism kit.

Help us continue to do this critical work: Make a donation to UFPJ today.

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NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD VOTES FOR IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT BUSH AND VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY

 

Tuesday, November 5, 2007
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
 
Contact: Marjorie Cohn, NLG President, Marjorie@tjsl. edu; 619-374-6923
Heidi Boghosian, NLG Executive Director, director@nlg. org 212-679-5100, ext. 11
James Marc Leas, NLG member who drafted the resolution, 802 864-1575 or 802 734-8811

 

November 5, Washington, D.C. The National Lawyers Guild voted unanimously and enthusiastically for the impeachment of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney at its national convention in Washington, DC. The resolution lists more than a dozen high crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush and Cheney administration and "calls upon the U.S. House of Representatives to immediately initiate impeachment proceedings, to investigate the charges, and if the investigation supports the charges, to vote to impeach George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney as provided in the Constitution of the United States of America."
 
The resolution provides for an NLG Impeachment Committee open to all members that will help organize and coordinate events at the local, state, and national level to build public participation in the campaign to initiate impeachment investigation, impeachment, and removal of Bush and Cheney from office without further delay.
 
The resolution calls on all other state and national bar associations, state and local government bodies, community organizations, labor unions, and all other citizen associations to adopt similar resolutions and to use all their resources to build the campaign demanding that Congress initiate impeachment investigation, impeach, and remove Bush and Cheney from office.


The full text of the resolution can be found at http://nlg.org/ convention/ 2007%20Resolutio ns/Impeachment% 20resolution. pdf
 
National Lawyers Guild President Marjorie Cohn said, "The war of aggression, the secret prisons, the use of cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, the use of evidence obtained by torture, and the surveillance of citizens without warrants, all initiated and carried out under the tenure of Bush and Cheney, are illegal under the U.S. Constitution and international law.”

Founded in 1937 as an alternative to the American Bar Association, which did not admit people of color, the National Lawyers Guild is the oldest and largest public interest/human rights bar organization in the United States. Its headquarters are in New York and it has chapters in every state.
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