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« Reply #150 on: August 15, 2008, 09:26:23 PM »

Nope I don't think that events are predestined...what is predestined is mood/intent/habits of those around us, then we have to awakening to that context and beyond it to ensure somewhat favorable circumstances for ourselves. Forgive the long post, but it is the antidote to the scary one I posted on the Apocalypse thread...

IMPLOSION TECHNOLOGY and the NEXT CIVILIZATION

EXPLOSION                     IMPLOSION
Centrifugal/Expansion                  Centripetal/Collapse
Radiating/Rarefaction                  Gravitating/compaction
Decreasing energy                  Increasing energy
Decreasing density away from zeropoint            Increasing density toward zeropoint
Entropy   /Positive Repulsive               Syntropy/Negative Attractive
CHARGING                     DISCHARGING
Male                        Female
Red-Orange                     Blue-Green

Walter Russell (1871-1963) said that zeropoint is the "densest" part of manifestation...perhaps only because of its potential for matter generation in the "time" dimension. During vivid spiritual experiences, Russell had seen everything in the universe, from the atom to outer space, being formed by an invisible background geometry. He was so far ahead that in 1926 when he put the table of elements into his spiral system he predicted tritium, deuterium, neptunium, plutonium and other elements. Walter says that our bringing radioactive material to the surface of the earth and letting it loose in the environment will ultimately result in the destruction of the oxygen on Earth. (See Atomic Suicide)
According to Walter Russell, the keystone of the entire structure of the spiritual and physical universe is Rhythmic Balanced Interchange between all opposites. All energy is expressed through the polarization process: the interchange between gravity’s compression/implosion/generation and gravity’s expansion/explosion/radiation. The whole premise of a petroleum/combustion society is faulty at its foundations. The only reason it still continues is because the oil-nuclear men have been suppressing the alternatives for over 100 years.
The book- In the Wave Lies the Secret of Creation by Timothy A. Binder is a collection of Walter Russell’s scientific and artistic diagrams on the nature of sound, light, the elements etc…[In the Wave Lies the Secret of Creation]..."is designed to be especially helpful to those students who are applying Russellian science of the cosmos to create a new, sustainable, pollution-free technology for the coming millennium. This was one of the most important goals of both Walter and Lao Russell as a demonstration of the love principle in science and technology." Timothy Binder. www.walter-russell.org/      www.philosophy.org/   www.via-visioninaction.org/
Viktor Schauberger (1885–1958) I think is the principle philosophical father of the next civilization - possibly the most forward-thinking scientific philosopher mystic of all time. The combination of permaculture and Schauberger is the foundations of a new civilization. Whereas today’s main energy technologies use outward-moving explosion, such as fuel-burning and atom-splitting, Schauberger’s machines operated on the basis of inward-spiraling movements, or implosion. Viktor Schauberger realized by observation what Cartesian reductionism couldn't...that moving fluids can generate energy by reducing entropy!! He was also the inventor of the first plasma vortex powered "flying saucers" in the 1940’s! Viktor’s motto was "understand nature, and then copy nature." "Implosion is no invention in the conventional sense, but rather the renaissance of ancient knowledge, lost over the course of time."
Schauberger warned that the "Prevailing technology uses the wrong forms of motion. It is based on entropy - on motions which nature uses to break down and scatter materials. However, Nature uses a different type of motion for creating order and new growth. The prevailing explosion-based technology - fuel burning and atom splitting - fills the world with expanding, heat-generating centrifugal motion." Shane Hall http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/zeropoint/advanced/vortex.txt
Viktor Schauberger said: "If water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation known as ‘colloidal’, a build up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation. This form of movement is able to carry with it its own means of power generation. This principle leads logically to its application in the design of the ideal airplane or submarine... requiring almost no motive power." ~From "Living Water" by Olof Alexandersson (1990)
"Nature is not served by rigid laws, but by rhythmical, reciprocal processes. Nature uses none of the preconditions of the chemist or the physicist for the purposes of evolution. Nature excludes all fire on principle for purposes of growth; therefore all contemporary machines are unnatural and constructed according to false premises. Nature avails herself of the bio-dynamic form of motion through which the biological prerequisite for the emergence of life is provided. Its purpose is to ur-procreate [re-create the primary, the essence of] ‘higher’ conditions of matter out of the originally inferior raw materials, which afford the evolutionally older, or the numerically greater rising generation, the possibility of a constant capacity to evolve, for without any growing and increasing reserves of energy there would be no evolution or development. This results first and foremost in the collapse of the so-called Law of the Conservation of Energy, and in further consequence the Law of Gravity, and all other dogmatics lose any rational or practical basis." ~Viktor Schauberger (From "Implosion" no. 81 re-printed in Nexus magazine Apr-May 1996)
"In contrast, all 'technical' machines, i.e. all dynamos, turbines, pressure pumps, propellers, explosion and steam driven engines, all furnaces, gas and electric heating appliances, all soil-tilling and harvesting machinery, etc. provide a developmentally harmful ex-pulse to initiate motion. Because of this and without exception, the atom lattice thus moved ruptures, resulting in the disintegration of the molecular (bacteriophagous) formations in suspension. In unnaturally moved air or water decadent stresses appear, causing the decay of the decisive energy-concentrates. This leads to the build-up of decadent potential and the decomposition of the blood of the Earth (water), and thus to a total economic collapse along the whole course of development." — Viktor Schauberger from Technology & Biotechnology Oct. 1946 from Implosion Magazine, No 116 pp 37.
Implosion machines concentrate electric charge and generates energy, reversing entropy. To understand the difference in the existing entropic-explosion culture and the syntropic-implosion culture that we are creating for the future, you really need to read Fertile Earth, by Viktor Schauberger after you have read Living Water by Olaf Anderson and Hidden Nature by Alick Bartholomew, ( Overview Schauberger’s main themes.)
"All those, who still believe they can create a healthy economy and culture using atomic excess pressure and the influence of fire, should be totally ignored." 35, The Fertile Earth, Viktor Schauberger
If we continue to impact the environment without understanding the bioelectromagnetism, bonding and structuring of water, the capillary effect up trees reduced our forests won't grow properly, our water tables will fall as water becomes acidified and unstructured and loses its clathrate-ORMUS gas levity power whereon the dead water descends to aquifers and takes years to ascend. Our lakes, rivers and oceans will fail to harbor abundant life, our drinking water will promote cancer, our agriculture will become infertile, the human species and other life will lose the capacity to reproduce, the rivers/oceans will heat up and the salmon will not be able to get upstream to spawn. The lower zeta potential of dead water produces more clumping and plaque formation, flocculation, less nutrition and less detoxification, less ATP energy generation, less consciousness, lower metamorphic power, resistance against entropy lowered…disease and disintegration are favored, protection of DNA integrity lowered, mutation and cancer increased.
John Ernst Worrell Keely (1827-1898) was a US inventor from Philadelphia who invented the Keely Cavitation Motor which he claimed to be capable of perpetual motion with the female force of implosion. In 1872, Keely announced that he had discovered a principle for power production based on the musical vibrations of tuning forks. He claimed that music could resonate with atoms or with the aether. He used to turn his machines on with musical instruments and with his mind. He said all energy in the Universe is mind energy or vibration. Both John Worrell Keely and Viktor Schauberger (1885-1958) made an implosion tech water hammer energy generator…this implosion machine concentrates the electric charge of water and generates energy—reversing entropy.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCRlW66MYtA  —Dale Pond-The basic principles of SVP and Keely's work; Sympathetic Vibratory Physics www.svpvril.com/ —Sympathetic Vibratory Physics, Theoretical and Applied Universal Law—John Worrell Keely, Dale Pond
Nassim Haramein (1962) is a Swiss-born scientist who claims to have developed a unified field theory based on the origin of spin/angular momentum defined as a "spacetime torque" which is integral to his "Holofractographic Universe". The Haramein-Rauscher unification theory and claims it is a new solution to Einstein’s Field Equations that incorporates torque and Coriolis effects in "plasma dynamics" interacting with a polarized geometric structured vacuum. www.theresonanceproject.org  Nassim Haramein spin GUT sacred geometry(see Youtube)…Beyond the Event Horizon DVD

VISIONARY NEW ENERGY SEARCHES: Alternative Energy, Zero-Point Energy, Superconductivity, Superstrings, Casimir Force, Cold Fusion, Inertial Propulsion, Levitation, Connective Physics, Hyperdimension, Sacred Geometry, Golden Mean, Music of the Spheres, Fibonacci. Viktor Schauberger, Callum Coats, John Worrell Keely (1827-1898), Dale Pond, Walter Russell, Tom Bearden, Tom Valone, Brian Desborough, Lloyd Zirbes, Nikola Tesla, Edwin V. Gray, Thomas Henry Moray, Nathan Stubblefield Stan Meyers, Dennis Lee, John Hutchison, John Kanzius, John Moray, John Milewski, Hal Puthoff, Wilhelm Reich, Nassim Haramein, Stuart Hameroff, Eric Learner, William McDonough, Buckminster Fuller, Jacque Fresco, Gaviotas, Permaculture Tech, David Holmgren, Bill Mollison, Rudolf Steiner, ORMUS, Barry Carter, Laurence Gardner, David Radius Hudson.

www.pks.or.at/index_en.html  —Pythagoras-Kepler-System, School that Walter Schauberger started to bring Viktor Schauberger's realizations into widespread consciousness. Both Walter Schauberger and Walter Russell put both the wavelengths of sound and light into the fibonacci sequence.
http://frank.germano.com  —Frank D. Germano's, Tesla Schauberger Walter Russell Dale Pond SVP Joe cell information site. John Worrell Keely
http://www.infinite-energy.com/
www.halexandria.org/dward154.htm  —Zeropoint
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdnV1umiJpo&NR=1  —Open Sourcing Free Energy, Sterling Allan, www.pureenergysystems.com     www.newenergynews.com    www.peswiki.com
www.cheniere.org/  —Tom Bearden, energy from the vacuum/kundalini. The Excalibur Briefing.
www.greatdreams.com/grace/ —Robert Grace amazing physics…To understand matters harmonics and harmonize with it by copying existing Universal systems.

www.biologyofkundalini.com  —See bottom of Resources for list of Scientific Mystics.
 Also offering the 60 page Visionary List and info-resource lists on Cancer, EcoArchitecture/Permaculture, New Energy, ..email me with LIST WANTED in the subject line if you want one of these free lists. jananz@hotmail.com
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« Reply #151 on: August 16, 2008, 09:52:15 AM »

Yeah, predestiny is pretty hard to get used to. But I was thinking that it's a good antidote for the compulsion to 'make things happen' that seems so prevalent these days. Ok, I'll check out the book. Syntropic implosion eh? Sounds far out...
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« Reply #152 on: November 01, 2008, 02:20:08 PM »

Jana saving the world plan is coming along nicely, but no progress on the ground yet.

Good News I found out why there is no horsetail in Australasia: the absence of horsetail could be explained by the fact that Australasia was down at the south pole during the carboniferous period in which horsetail was a dominant species. The polar ice cap of the Carboniferous Period covered the southern end of Pangaea. Glacial deposits, specifically till, of the same age and structure are found on many separate continents which would have been together in the continent of Pangaea.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/ahd4/A4pangae.jpg

REMINERALIZE
The solution is to not only reforest, but to remineralize! Australia in particular is one of the most eroded ancient landmasses on earth, yet it does have rich deposits of minerals which could be widely distributed along with rockdust, ground-up seashells in order to enhance the reforestation project, but also to strengthen growth and drought resistance in existing tree populations. Just reforestation alone is not enough…if we remineralize we might be able to hold back the next ice age till the point that we are spiritually and technically able to deal with it. With the already lowered water tables and mineral depleted soils our reforestation efforts may not be successful enough to operate in climate modification.

Let us not waste our time and resources on failed systems like the monoculture tree plantations in China, much of which is dead thru lack of water. If the river-flat systems are permacultured with a major canopy belt along the waterway itself…this will not only provide more food and lumber than the existing fields of plowed crops, but the permacultured river flats will act as natural forest to pull in rain from the ocean such that surrounding hills and land receives more water for natural reseeding of forests or planted reforesting. ***In Gaviotas the huge plantations of pine trees that they planted turned out to be a nursery crop which changed the soil and climate such that native forest started to become re-established on land that grew nothing but prairie grass for millions of years.***
http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/deforestation-forum/14001-plight-urban-tree.html  —Not only rockdust/minerals needs to be considered by soil microbial life and the lack of humus molecules. We must also look into how radioactive fallout from DU etc…is affecting our soils and therefore the ecosystems around the globe. ScienceDaily.com said that 8% of salamanders in Yellowstone park are genetically deformed…we can consider them to be the canary in the coalmine for all other species.

http://www.remineralize.org/don/synopsis01.html  —Don Weaver, Survival of Civilization, Carbon Cycle Iceage Theory developed by John Hamaker.

http://feralkevin.com/blog/?p=55  —Remineralization solution for Sudden Oak Death
http://organicanews.com/news/article.cfm?story_id=70  —Nice summary of the need to remineralize.

www.wrm.org.uy/plantations/material/book.html    —World Rainforest Movement (WRM), Plantations are not forests

www.remineralize.org

AUSTRALIAN TERRAFORM TESTING STATIONS
Australia is the idea testing ground for terraform-style climate change methods because it is further along in its senescence cycle, (yet ironically never harbored large mammals.) Australia also has some of the world’s leaders in ecological systems management, namely Bill Mollison, David Holgrem and Callum Coats.
I propose the following team to be constructed and implement a test area for the greenhouse-reforestation and desalination of a river flat.
• Callum Coats the Schauberger scholar, now living in Byron Bay for river systems  water health, and desalination. Aerodynamics of greenhouse design.
• Geoff Lawton, permaculturalist on horticulture in high saline soils using mycorrhiza, water systems engineering and plant spectrum.
• Paul Stamets mushroom guy as consultant on types of fungi to use in the system for cleanup and nutrient fertility of plants to be established.
• Engineers from Gaviotas and Arcosanti (AZ) for the design project of the greenhouses. Also Buckminster Fuller Institute and Jacque Fresco (FL) of the Venus Project.
• Don Weaver (CA) and Jon Biloon (HI) for rockdust remineralization and desalination.
• Permaculturalists Bill Mollison and/or David Holgrem overseeing the master design of the system to make sure all aspects are covered.



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« Reply #153 on: November 19, 2008, 08:44:22 PM »

GROWING WHEATGRASS  (for 15”x10” plastic tray)
1.Put 1.75 cups (1 large coffee cup) of wheat berries in a mason jar with a sprouting lid on. Cover seeds with water and soak 6-8 hours.
2.Germinate with jar at 45°angle in a bowl, rinsing once a day with water, for a day or two till root is about ¼”.
3.Fill a perforated tray 3⁄4 full with soil, mix in 1 tablespoon of kelp powder and cover surface with the germinated wheat berries.
4.Water in seeds with watering can, fulvic acid and/or liquid fertilizer.
5.Cover with plexiglass 1⁄2” off the berries or plastic hutch for 2 days in shade. Spray lightly with water once or twice a day.
6.Take off cover and continue to grow indoors, use a spray bottle to water once a day. Or water if the soil dries out.
7.Harden off outside in semi-shade until about 5-7” tall; Water with watering can nearly every day if necessary.

Secrets of success: I grow my wheatgrass on a balcony in squirrel proof hutches made from open shelving covered with plastic or chicken wire. Make sure your trays have drainage holes in the bottom...and prop trays off of solid shelf to enhance aeration.  If berries don’t germinate well get a different type of wheat seed next time. Since we are not covering the seeds with any soil, the main point for achieving a uniform growth is to cover the germinated seeds with plastic for the first two days until the roots descend into the soil. Growing Compost—Tear up used root-soil into pieces and compost along with juicing pulp, kelp powder, ground eggshells, Paul Stamets mycorrhiza, leaves, banana peels, herbs, buckwheat goop and clays etc…
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« Reply #154 on: November 20, 2008, 09:55:14 PM »

Vanessa might have the best version on how to save the world.
Check out the Vanessa Stone video...she is awesome.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-153936213309506589  —Zdenko Method Bio Energy healing; also: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmTw9b55LIo

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2bzEbhFbw  —Bridging Heaven & Earth Show # 162 with Vanessa Stone  "Remembrance, recognition, gratefulness, loving service...the medicine for the human condition. Quite simple. A complete path in itself." ~Vanessa Stone, Founder of Amala
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« Reply #155 on: November 21, 2008, 08:41:40 AM »


 Global Implications of Soil Organic Matter  by Environmental Research & Information Consortium (ERIC) – http://eric.com.au/html/news.php

It will be found that the increased levels of amospheric CO2 are an effect rather than a cause.   In consequence, efforts directed at sequestering carbon from fossil fuels will serve no purpose  other than to promote business and bureauchracy.  The application of an  eccomic/bureauchratic solution to an environmental problem, as arises with carbon credits,  serves only to produce large profits for companies at extreme costs to the community, as has  occurred with fertiliser and tabacco.  Bureaucracies expand through developing and  administering the rules and regulations.

If human health is to improve rather than continue its existing decline, and if global warming  is to be mitigated, then increasing the levels of soil organic matter must receive a very high priority.   Increased CO2 being an effect and not a cause of global warming. With increased knowledge on the energy balance of the earth it will be found that the cause of global warming is directly related to vegetation clearing, hence the solution involves reestablishing viable plant communities.  Soil organic matter is central to the development of plant communities and hence is central to addressing global warming. The increase in atmospheric CO2 being commensurate with that associated with the loss of organic matter from soils due to the loss of perennial vegetation through conventional agriculture.

Soil organic matter has been sidelined in agriculture post World War 2 because of the false  view that fertility can be addressed using mineral fertilisers. They have increased in importance with global warming as vegetation structure is significant for levels of carbon sequestration and potential rates of CO2 fixation. The cation exchange capacity of the best clay mineral is much less than that for soil OM. The high chelating capacity of humic compounds, and other forms of soil organic matter, is a  prime reason for the positive correlation between soil OM and fertility.  Plants require a supply  of nutrients throughout their growth hence the soil must act as a nutrient reservoir.  Most  soluble nutrients would be lost through leaching without an effective storage system where  soluble nutrients are most readily available to plants.  Soil OM provides the necessary storage  and hence maintains a supply of nutrients throughout the growth of a plant.  In doing so it  greatly reduces the loss of nutrients from the soil / plant system. Microbes supply all of the more than 60 elements needed by plants in an appropriate form and  relative abundance.  The elements supplied in mineral fertilisers are only a small subset of  these. With continued application of chemical fertilizers, stores of at least some of the more than 60 elements needed by plants  become depleted because of the adverse impacts on microbial populations and soil structure.  The only healthy situation for the soil, vegetation, and  consumers of the produce is to return to the naturally evolved system wherein nutrients are  supplied to plants via microbes. 
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« Reply #156 on: November 22, 2008, 01:13:36 PM »

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Increased CO2 being an effect and not a cause of global warming.
I remain unconvinced that CO2 levels substantively affect climate. I see no real proof that convinces me either way. But increased CO2 levels are certainly the result of fossil fuel combustion. Are you claiming that there is some, now broken, CO2 sink that would normally sequester the CO2 we're generating? I don't follow you...

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« Reply #157 on: November 22, 2008, 02:31:02 PM »

Yea besides deforestation there is vegetation cover reduction due to loss of organic matter in the soil from chemical agricultural. Loss of evaporative cooling from deforestation increases ocean temperatures as well, and warming oceans hold less CO2 and grow less plankton. With regards to CO2 sequestration in biomass, the reduction in vegetation, reduction in leaf litter/soil organic matter and reduction in algae combine to be the most significant factors in liberating CO2 to warm the globe.

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« Reply #158 on: November 27, 2008, 07:28:48 PM »

"America...in bad need of new self definition!" says Kiwi exile, reluctant explorer of the madlands.
Any takers?
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« Reply #159 on: November 29, 2008, 12:22:39 PM »

Good point, it's all about how we define the problem, how we frame the issue. But all definitons are limiting, by definition. To define means to limit. How about "A place where dreams come true,  and then turn into nightmares"? "The place where stephen king goes when he wants to scare himself"?

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« Reply #160 on: November 29, 2008, 02:20:17 PM »

A mer ica ...a sea of ikiness.
Rhything teams of egoic humanity each trying to extract the most amount of juice from the pie with the least amount of effort, while pretending to have a good time and spouting bland inanities. Going nowhere fast while sporting the latest cell phones and jewelery.
Mind you it is probably the same everywhere on earth, its just that in America its pants down and in your face. Purge

Sir Tom Jones came out with a new album
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« Reply #161 on: November 29, 2008, 11:05:03 PM »

Stop identifying love outside yourself ~ V. Stone.


The inner peace, love and understanding that divine grace offers is the whole appeal of the inner tittie and the birthright of the mystic. So what? I would say the inner marriage eliminates the need to love an outside object in order to feel complete. Which is what I think she is trying to say. But the same vow also eliminates the whole distinction between inner and outer. Because the distinctions are all within me, the inner marriage is the realization that the distinctions and separations were all in my head. There is no 'outside' mySelf.

Hank's right there is something like intriguing about this chick. she's got some manson-family-leave-it-to beaver-joan-cleaver vibe going. I can't put my finger on it. Danger Will Robinson!!
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« Reply #162 on: November 30, 2008, 08:47:53 AM »

10 million years of egoic consciousness...yuck...gotta marry my hemispheres! Embarrassed


http://www.viddler.com/explore/longevitynow/videos/4/  —David Wolfe on ORMUS and water.

The good thing about David Wolfe is he is pushing the edge...whenever I watch his latest material...he gives yet another zen koan to fly in the face of convention.
Lets face it, orthodox science is failing us...I think Wolfe with his alchemical imagination is rather like a Buckminster or Schauberger that built their genius thru experimentation.
If you look at David's skin, you can see he is onto something...and we more oxidized, capillary clogged gravity hogs...can just sit back and watch the guy fly.
That is not to say that everything that comes out of his mouth is truth...but that it is an alchemical challenge to do the experiment, to find out for ourselves.
If we go with the experiment, then the rational science, the empirical confirmation may arise down the line to confirm the intuition and the flip flopping of socalled known truths.
While not as conservative as a Brian Clement...David might be even more valuable to humanity in turning our known universe on its ass, for the Good.
More power to him.

He should however be followed by a gaggle of scientific nerds with a passion for criticism.
Imagine it.

Get that if David Wolfe did not come off with the air of such certainty he would have such a large cult following...it is up to us to "remember" this is an exploratory, infantile science.

Perhaps the levitational substance is "carbones" or "noble gases" as mentioned by Schauberger...
The ORMUS-like cream to spring water might simply be water clusters in a hexagonal structure the geometry of which may create a different specific gravity or relation to zeropoint...this "lighter" hexagonally bonded water would move to the center of a vortex, and the heavier water and particulates and bacteria would be flung by centrifical force to the outside of the vortex.
Perhaps it is water with an excess of hydrogen atoms that is seeking to mate with oxygen...this water would certainly be lighter.
David Wolfe on the replication of living water at the spring source. Fructogenic properties of Cold wild spring water within 10 feet of the source.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNRapmL-h8

Perhaps water changed by soil microbes and root hairs becomes this light water before it is sucked up in plants. This is perhaps why dew has these remarkable ORMUS-like qualities that Schauberger describes.

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KeelyNetNatural light water is found in mountain rivers and melting glaciers. Scientists designed rectifying columns for water fractional distillation and derived water free from its heavy components. Light water normalizes any pathology found in an organism. It also improves body resistance to harmful effects of physical, chemical and biological origin. Clinical trials revealed light water's ability to dissolve higher concentrations of various substances and to penetrate membranes easier than ordinary water. Light water showed anti-inflammatory effect and eliminated tissue puffiness. Recently developed "Langway" water is already available at the US market. Tests proved its potential to refine cell metabolic processes through accumulating energy inside a cell. Light water is highly recommended for skin regeneration stimulation. "Langway" tones the skin, reduces its greasiness, narrows skin pores, slows ageing and helps skin to resist negative environmental impact. Light water also regulates excretion of toxins, salts of heavy metals, cellular debris and infectious germs. Another positive aspect is that such water lowers blood sugar and cholesterol, thus it can be recommended for patients, suffering from diabetes, atherosclerosis, obesity and hypertension.
www.russia-ic.com/news/show/2107/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9VEz2Px8QM&feature=related  —Awesome talk on Calcium by David Wolfe

X-ray analysis of 664 weight-bearing metaphyses
of 121 individual dinosaurs, representing 18 genera, confirmed the rarity of
osteoarthritis in dinosaurs and suggests that weight alone does not have a
direct role in the development of osteoarthritis.
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« Reply #163 on: December 01, 2008, 10:54:45 AM »

Although there may be plenty of blame to go around, orthodox science is blameless. I can’t think of a more innocent scapegoat for receiving society’s current shadow projections. I would agree that the typical scientific curriculum does not generally encourage people to think outside of the most currently fashionable version of scientific dogma. Scientific theories are often held onto more tightly than they deserve to be. This is the essence of the Thomas Kuhn thesis, which most practicing scientists ignore.

It is sometimes hard for scientists to admit that the typical scientific theory is nothing but metaphor. Scientific theory does not objectively explain the experimental results, rather it tells ‘fairy-tales’ that more-or-less make sense of the data. So much for theory.

That’s one problem; another problem lies in the public perception of science as some kind of an errand boy at the service of their whims. The scientific approach actually is your errand boy, if you want to employ it yourself. But the scientific community is already bought and paid for by special interests. I don’t see this changing anytime soon.

The real failure is non-orthodox science. My view is that orthodox science strictly follows the scientific method and non-orthodox science does not. Non-orthodox science is therefore not science at all, by this definition. They could still find something of value, certainly it’s possible, but real science will still have to provide the ultimate test of the scope and reliability of the findings. Science is by far the most objective means for gauging truth that has ever been devised. A scientist that has some stake in the findings is suspect. He may be practicing a version of non-orthodox science known as pathological science. That’s why there is so much emphasis on independent verification of all findings.

What if there exists an approach that is more effective and more expeditious than the scientific method? How would we discover it? Talk about a revolution! Move over Einstein.
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« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2008, 01:58:36 PM »

yay Water beer. appreciation for jana's posts. i need to do a better job with water stewardship with the wonderful water on my farm bow. hell of a still david wolfe has in his backyard. good to know prayer works too. i also enjoy the infectious enthusiasm cousens, kulvinskas and wolfe have for raw foods. they speak highly of boulder's scott olgren....henry
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