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[Francis]

"wants" are all ego driven, but it would depend on the level of the ego that it's operating from.  purely egotistical wantings arn't likely to benefit anyone, including the subject.  a more transpersonal transparent ego will, of course, desire what is best for all. i'm not sure if this applies to "needs", unless the ego is involved and deluding itself into thinking a want is a need.

I like the idea of wanting what's best for all, it gives me that warm fuzzy feeling

On the other hand it's just a meaningless platitude. So I'm locked in an inner conflict   

What's "best" is utterly subjective in any case. Even in hindsight, people don't agree on what's best. Of course we could define the transpersonal transparent ego as someone who knows what's best. But that's really just sleight of hand.

The premise behind the maslow seems to be that needs are objective requirements for life, whereas wants are not. So all that's required is a subjective desire to embrace life and we're led to persue our needs. I'm still troubled by the idea.

If you want or need something, it's already too late. By the time a person consciously wants or needs something, the damage is already done. The mind has succumbed to "deprivation consciousness" as Jana would say. Believing that wants and needs even exist is a form of neurosis. To the extent that this belief distracts people from embracing what is, it's also the gateway to delusion.

[Jana]

Now we are getting into deeper shit, so we must be getting somewhere.
I like what you say about if there is thought about want or need it is already too late..ie: already in deprivation mode...this falling out of the Flow of Necessity is egoism...embeddedness in the mind.
I like to say we focus on doing the right thing or the next thing and our wants and needs then follow in the wake of our purpose. Thus if we focus on cultivating high energy, Flow and removing that which is not working for us then wants and needs are automatically taken care of. The decision factor involves what produces the most about of love, freedom and vitality, and furthers the reach of consciousness.

[jimtzu]

thoughts are like lightening, if you can see it (witness them) it's already passed you by.  when you're in the flow and inspiration strikes is when things happen, the rest is mental masturbation.   

[Francis]

Want = weakness, need = powerlessness. Wants and needs are bondage, slavery. Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. But it's not as if we can attack wants and needs directly and we'll be free. They are a symptom of a more fundamental block. Guess who? The ego. Our favorite petty tyrant. Once again exhibiting a voracious appetite for false security. The ego thinks that security depends on the state of affairs outside the mind. When really, security is a state of mind, if it exists at all.

Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven, and all else shall be added unto you.

[Jana]

I convert my wants and needs into abstraction, and through the knowledge that there is no satisfaction to be had out there.

[Francis]

Out there? Certainly not. Where else could we look?

[jimtzu]

when we look outwards we see the reflection of the innerself.

when we look inwards we see our projections to the "outside".

[Jana]

Jim can you go over the second one more thanks.

Comments on Titles and covers appreciated. Designed similar to BOK
I am presently writing 3 books:
1. Awakening the Bodymind ~ Transcending the Degenerative Complex
(Cover: Spiral galaxy background, with alchemical symbol of turquoise winged Isis Caduceus in a circle) Dark Teal rest of cover

2. Awakening the Body ~ Raw Weight Loss and Detoxification
(Cover: Fractal spiral background with green alchemical symbol of my tree roots/branches in a circle). Dark grape rest of cover

3.Awakening the Earthsoul ~ Regeneration of the Cosmic Visionary
(Cover: Water spiral background with alchemical symbol of purple star tetrahedron in circle) Indigo rest of cover.

[henry]

maybe wait until one book "awakening". no question about your gifted scholarship . on the bodymind piece, first assimilate the somatic contributions of don hanlon johnson,deane juhan, thomas hanna, etc., etc. i'm Mr. helpful.... ...henry

[Francis]

Creation, the novel.

The following dramatization of the Judeo-Christian creation story is offered for your entertainment and edification.

It’s a compelling story of deception, treachery and intrigue. Our protagonist (God) leaves home on an adventure, forgets where he’s from and ends up in a gritty alien world (manifestation). Along the way he meets a beautiful maiden (materialism) that reminds him of his Royal Birthright. They get engaged but then he runs off with a whore (Qlipoth) and leaves his bride-to-be jilted and crying at the altar. In the end, he grows weary of his harlot and returns to marry his soul-mate.

Abandoning the abysmal dreariness of Ain Soph Aur, the Spirit of God sets out for a new crib. The Divine Essence descends through each of the four veils shown (see diagram) and enters four successive lower worlds. At each level, he must abandon part of himself before he enters the next lower world. The Divine Essence becomes diluted and, at the very bottom, all but unrecognizable even to himself. This is the path of evolution, further and further immersion into layer upon layer of successive obscuring veils.

So he decides to return home. First he reads a book by Maslow and plans his journey.  Traveling back upward, he passes the first veil by increasing his self esteem and determining his own ideals, becoming an egoist. Next he abandons his ego and embraces his root passions and shadow-self, witnessing the source of his ideals. Then he abandons his passions and merges with the collective unconscious, experiencing a deep sense of belonging and unity. Finally he lets go of experience itself, expands beyond all limits and merges with God for awhile.

[Jana]

maybe wait until one book "awakening". no question about your gifted scholarship . on the bodymind piece, first assimilate the somatic contributions of don hanlon johnson,deane juhan, thomas hanna, etc., etc. i'm Mr. helpful.... ...henry

Nope they are all finished already, just need to edit and fill in the gaps...written over the course of 15 years. The stuff is not derivative of others work...it is a homo sapiens species view of what we are doing to ourselves eco-biologically.

[Francis]

Engaging the Bodymind ~ Awakening the Regenerative Complex and Rousing Kundalini.

Energizing the Body ~ Raw Food Regimens for Weight Loss and Detoxification.

Earthsoul Meditations~ Engaging the Cosmic Visionary

[jimtzu]

when we look outwards we see the reflection of the innerself.

when we look inwards we see our projections to the "outside".

the first one is the metaphor of using what we see in the external reality as a mirror to "read between the lines"  of our subjectivity.

the second is "simply" to realize that what we see of the outside holon is really a result OF our subjectivity, that what we see is what we have help create thru our personal experiences.

they are the two sides of seeing thru interbeing.  for those that have eyes to see. 

[Francis]

Has there ever been a more useless notion than the “holon”? Because its definition contains a contradiction, it defies logical compatibility with other concepts. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_contradiction Like all other oxymorons, you cannot get any logical traction. Holons are not wholes at all, because there is only one whole ever envisioned. This is a scientifically demonstrable fact, based on first principles. Another way of saying this is that “the Universe (or whatever you want to call it) is the only “whole” that is not a part of something else.” Holons may appear subjectively to have an independent existence, and be autonomous but this has been shown to be a false impression. Why include false impression in a definition? To distract us from the already obscure fact that we're all connected? It’s really quite conterproductive to do so, imho. The objective fact that this idea alludes to is: “all parts can be further subdivided into subparts” The vast majority of so called ‘holons’ would be best described as ‘subparts’. Not as sexy, I know. I would even go a step further, the concept of the holon is actually a threat to mental clarity. Concepts like this are less than useless, they actively propagate and spread delusion. They are the noosphere's analogue to the material world's prions.

Phew, I feel better. Now about your point. Here’s the way I prefer to put it: Assuming that we are fully immersed in the material: When we look outward we see a projection of the ideas and concepts that form structure of our psyche. When we look within, we see the ideas and concepts that form the structure of the psyche. If instead we are fully immersed in the noosphere, looking in, we see the root emotions that give rise to our ideas and concepts, next, in the ‘emotosphere’, we see the primordial drives that give rise to our emotions. Lastly from ‘primodosphere’ we see the Big Guy. Looking out changes in a likewise manner because we’re always seeing the structure of our psyche, which changes as described.

[Jana]

Great stuff,
The emotosphere arises as the first impulse out of the primosphere, which is then translated into conscious noosphere.
The way I try and remember how our reality is us, or my reality is me...is through the saying "to not shit in my living-water. However in flavor of Francis's rewording of my titles to their more propositive aspect...I would have to reword that to "bless my living-water"  I see that which blesses my living water. It is the same principle as namaste only more meaningful.

I really like your titles F, but why you take my "awakening" word out.
And these books prepare the ground for kundalini awakening, but they are not directly focused on that...as people will approach K. with the same lust they approach materialism...way dangerous..I would not want to  be responsible for awakening the K. in anyone. BUT hidden in plain sight in the kundalini skills espec. and throughout BOK is the means to go about awakening.

And regarding holons...perhaps you are right about the word...we might need to upgrade it to fractons...as in parts of the fractal.  As we move more into the fractal/holographic paradigm and the reanimated hylozoic universe we will need to relanguage as we go.

The term holons is part of the left-brain culture of linear, materialization and naming and now we are moving into a synthesizing nonlinear, ephemerialization and grokking-feeling culture.

# Monadology, a book of philosophy by Gottfried Leibniz in which monads are a basic unit of perceptual reality
# Monad (Greek philosophy) a term used by ancient philosophers Pythagoras, Parmenides, Xenophanes, Plato, Aristotle, and Plotinus as a term for God or the first being, or the totality of all being.
# Monism, the concept of "one essence" in the metaphysical and theological theory