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« Reply #105 on: September 22, 2009, 03:01:02 PM »

in an alchemical perspective, cultural social resistance (trance) may provide the necessary heat for transformation. wee henry wishes it was all Grace nope. Eros+friction= a Plan Beats me
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« Reply #106 on: September 22, 2009, 06:21:02 PM »

Yes Henry you have something there. Also there is the phenomena of projected resistance...where our own laziness to change—backed by a good dose of anger and self-hatred—is projected onto the vast hoards of ignorant masses—whereupon we insist that they wake up and change so that we feel that we can accomplish the necessary changes with ease. This projection of the need to change needs to be studied so that language and pathways out of this quagmire can be established. It is of course infinitely easier to just change ourselves and to give up trying to save the world...thereby building self-respect and relieving the terrible tension of evangelism, martyrdom and Messianic Complex.
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« Reply #107 on: September 23, 2009, 03:02:33 AM »

heartmind homework assignment: All is Grace. anything else is unconcious or projected resistance.  Undecided.....hint: that's the Agape thingy. the Eros thingy is the winds of Grace are always blowing, but you have to raise your sail (skillfully)bla bla bla bla
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« Reply #108 on: September 25, 2009, 08:23:25 AM »

The fragmentation of the human psyche is a very important, and it's the initial condition that people find themselves in as they begin inner work. The idea would be, of course, to be trustworthy, for oneself and others. That would mean to master those fragments, put them all into one coherent, integrated whole. That is what human integrity is; and as we are, without work, we don't have integrity.

~ http://www.intuition.org/txt/speeth2.htm

Each of these different fragments (i.e. selves) have their own compass points. Each has its own ‘true north’ and people tend to flit back and forth unconsciously between the various headings. In Washington this is called ‘gridlock’ because nothing gets done.  The socialized psyche is a bus full of various characters; and each wants a turn at the helm and each has its own agenda. The challenge is to decide who should be rowing and who should be steering and then to get everybody to agree on their role. Trouble is; mutiny abounds in the typical case.
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« Reply #109 on: September 25, 2009, 12:09:32 PM »

Every thought and action has a personality and soul...that is why we are called human "beings." We are not one thing, but a being and becoming process. There is the process of purification through the inner alchemy of this being and becomingness...with the blackening and decay of that which impedes the light...to become ever more transparent to the spirit fire.
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« Reply #110 on: September 26, 2009, 01:18:13 PM »

Strangely appropriate that the final presenter today in the GIA series was integral spiritual heartthrob and kabbalistic Lothario Marc Gafni. Smart Guy Beats me. Amidst all the theoretical verbiage of the series, i'm reminded of the words of william blake: "A poet, a painter, a musician, (a golfer Wink) or an architect; a man or woman who is not one of these is not a Christian" (or integral)...they announced a series summary next weekend, so your faithful correspondent will hang around another week before riding off into the sunset take a bow
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« Reply #111 on: September 26, 2009, 05:25:16 PM »




Regarding that huge slumbering, myopic, majority that can render all spiritual revelations totally mute. One could just cast them off as fodder for the corporate slum lords of monsanto/AMA...




… The nature of your assessment would seem to suggest that it is not the ‘huge slumbering, myopic, majority’ –whom could easily be cast off as fodder- that we should be concerned with, but instead it is the big ‘corporate slum lords of monsanto/AMA’ who are the real problem, and are much more deserving of our serious, and undivided attention… I would creatively suggest that it might in fact be just the ‘opposite’ of what you hint at –and I use the term ‘opposite’ rather loosely once again…

… If there is one thing that we have learned from the advertising, marketing, and PR people in the last hundred years, it is that without a captive, and attentive audience, there is no sale to be made, nor product to be sold… Many of us grow hoarse daily, decrying the injustices of the global corporate elite –who, by themselves are small in number- but few of us turn our attention ‘back’ on that all important target that even the corporate machine gives so much of its unyielding attention, of which Richard Nixon once referred to as ‘the silent majority’…

… There are exceptions of course. All too often however, when the bright light of scrutiny ‘is’ turned on the slumbering masses –as I believe it should be- it is usually done with disdain, derision, and disgust (the three ‘D’s’… hehehe, here’s some marketing you can use)… I can certainly understand the frustration and the easy manner in which words and phrases like ‘rednecks, fascists, schills, poor white trash, war mongering whores ‘ and the like, fall off the tongue with relative ease –as many truly do see where much of the blame actually lay. I just don’t think it’s a winning strategy, short-term or long…

… A valuable lesson that was learned from anti-Vietnam war protests was that very little was to be gained by demeaning the young soldiers whom actually fed the machine itself with their very presence. In fact, much more could be lost as a result. Tens of thousands of young –at the time- Vietnam veterans understood this realization quite clearly themselves, and required no chastisement whatsoever from the outside for their seeming transgression. They grokked this quite clearly all on their own, and made for a very powerful marketing, advertising and public relations statement when yesterdays warriors for the machine became today’s anti-war protesters for the opposition…

… Undoubtedly this philosophy of ‘non-judgment’ can have a downside as well, as our present circumstances reveal, where our protest movement of today, is but a hollow shadow of its former self of yesteryear. This, in part, is because –except for the few contrarians who are cursing each and every one that they rightly recognize as ‘part of the problem’- most of our liberal elite, who sprouted their liberal wings in the sixties, have also grown up with the eastern religious movement, the new age movement, the positive thinking movement, and the cognitive psychology movement all rolled into one. These collective gestalts combined together have left our former protesters from the sixties on the sidelines of life, as simple, and mere observers, of our century’s conflicts and turmoil’s, as they have come to understand just how much jingoism, as well as judgment, has truly affected the planet and humanity in ways beyond measure. As a consequence, these potential ‘martyrs for the cause of truth’ have left a huge void that at present, remains to be filled, because their very philosophy of life renders them both helpless as well as mute…

… And yet at the same time, where it can be certain that judgment might very well be part of the problem –‘discernment’ must certainly be a part of the solution…

… This is not to say that we should cease from holding the feet to the fire of these corporate giants –or their government enablers. I simply believe we should equally be focusing far more attention on the ‘source’ of even these cultural elite’s campaigns, which is that silent, slumbering, myopic majority –and we should do so with a whole lot less malice than we have been showing at present… Excuse the simple metaphor here, but an apt phrase that just came to mind seems to be; “forgive them Father, they know not what they do…"

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  The political acquiescence of the Obama administration is another version of cock sucking the corporate elite (dogs), just another black velvet curtain is drawn allowing people to put their head back on their pillow. 

… Hehehe, now is this what one could conceivably refer to as ‘a judgment?’  Although it might be emotionally satisfying –in the short term- to label some of our fellow brethren as ‘lowly cocksuckers,’ I’m pretty much in agreement with that ‘ol Negro spiritual, which seemed to be very much on the money, when it sang out and proud; “… you ain’t neva’ gonna get ta’ heaven that way, honey…” (that’s just a metaphor btw, to help symbolize ‘collectively’ bringing the blind to their metaphorical promised land –and not in any way a reference to your own entry into whatever afterlife you so envision)…

… If we truly wish to see a great shift in consciousness, I feel fairly certain that drawing further divisions will not do a thing to help accomplish that goal. And yet burying our heads in the sands as a result of a moral philosophy called ‘relativism’ does not appear to be the answer either… we have a potentially powerful would-be coalition of contrarians to the status quo, and the only two choices this powerful potential has come up with is,  either dead silence, or deafening derision… Damn, talk about polar extremes… Once again, no wonder we’re in such a fix…

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  I am doing my bit with my 3 awakening books, but I don't expect them to do much good. Instead...once I have said my piece I am heading south.

… Three books? I’m a little familiar with your BOK. What are the other two, and how far along are they –if I may ask? Also, if ‘south’ is your apparent retreat, why come ‘north’ in the first place?...
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« Reply #112 on: September 26, 2009, 08:39:35 PM »

Agreed, and its not even about people, its about cultural habits...and changing thousands of years of accumulated meme force. Little can be done with words, pictures, music etc... Really the only thing that will genuinely "shift" things is to create prototypes of higher cultural models...in ones own life and have it ripple out from there. I am now going to try and generate the billions needed to create these models.

In my sovereignty book, I have to go in there and change som lingo...such as instead of calling the teaming masses of blubber people "non-creatives" I am going to try and convey the idea that we are all potential whole enlightened people...some have just not yet discovered their source ground and cosmic resources.

"Every act not  in harmony with Truth, whether by ignorance or design, cuts the ground from under our feet, leads to discord and inevitable loss and confusion." Charles Haanel, Master Key Arcana
One of the best holographic universe books!!!

Awakening Sovereignty: Soul Play for the Mystic Civilization

Awakening the Body: Transcending the Degenerative Complex

with companion book on weight loss

Awakening the Soul: Path of the Cosmic Visionary

They are done already, I just have to edit

it will take me 2 years to complete them.

You can't journey in the same place. Its not like north is bad, it is just that I am more comfortable with southern madness than northern madness...I don't have the strength to endure it any longer.
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« Reply #113 on: September 27, 2009, 07:53:33 AM »

The only real evidence one really needs to see the full picture of what went down is the demolition evidence of military-tech thermite charge diagonal cuts on the tower columns.

This is back tracking a bit on Jana's comment on the 9/11 stuff. Regarding the photograph of the angular (supposed) Thermite cut into the I Beam. I agree that this is convincing evidence. But its not 100%

A few points.
1. This could have been done after the towers fell as part of the cleaning up process.

Counterpoint. The angle of the cut and the melting flowing effect of the metal. Is this the usual welding byproduct/artifact ?

2. It could have been photoshopped. Experts would need to analyze the photo for authenticity.

I'm not arguing against this, but I am just saying if we want 9/11 truth, then deal with as much objective factual evidence as possible and question everything so that you have as much water tight information as possible. Think like those who would cover up 9/11. How would they argue against theories to continue to cover up the whole thing?

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« Reply #114 on: September 27, 2009, 09:18:11 AM »

I heard that demolition experts said they had never seen anything like this "pull."
They weren't using regular thermite...but stuff with sulfur added...Thermate-TH3 is a mixture of thermite and pyrotechnic additives which have been found to be superior to standard thermite for incendiary purposes.
They probably didn't use mini nucs...but they may have used Fluoride gas in combo with the bombs in the basement...notice they blew the base prior to blowing the timed concertina of the floors...in order to get the entire building to "implode" into its footprint. This is probably standard demolition practice...done on a slightly larger scale. If you looked at the direction of the diagonal cuts they would each face the center of the building.

There is no other explanation...because you simply do not get a building turning to highly toxic dust in "mid air" without some major explosive power. I doubt that the Thermate-TH3 and the basement bombs constituted the entire force of the collapse. Since the building hung like a tree on its central pillars...it was a work of art waiting to happen.

There was a missile under the carriage of both planes to produce the initial spectacular fireworks. It left the plane seconds before the aircraft entered the building. If you go look at the images of those planes you will see they are not passenger planes.

The kicker tho is that plane fuel doesn't melt steel and keep it liquid hot for over a month in the basement...the scientists put that down to the thermate.

www.ae911truth.org/

The dust contained, according to a scientific article also traces of vellavet nanotermit - a custom-made material with so much energy that it can develop tremendous heat and be decidedly explosive.
 The chemical reaction creates liquid metal to temperatures of about 2,500 degrees Celsius could have melted the steel beams that were the core of the towers of the World Trade Center.
 When ordinary termites are burned by the formation of microscopic balls of iron. Combined with the discovery of the red / gray splinters of dust getting Niels Harrit to conclude that there "is an indispensable proof 'that was used Termite to tear down the WTC.

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« Reply #115 on: September 28, 2009, 12:54:01 AM »


 and its not even about people, its about cultural habits...and changing thousands of years of accumulated meme force.


… Yes, thousands of years of cultural habits. However, it is still ‘people’ who craft these particular meme forces, and it is people who will continue to reinforce these cultural habits, as well. It is also ‘people’ that a writer hopes to inform with their efforts. Although I do recall you stating not too long ago that your intended audience was not so much the masses as that of a small number of your fellow, unconventional explorers –or something to that affect, right?… I recall many years ago the words a wise soul once told me that my ultimate goal was ‘to be in the company of others who already understand the truths that I know,’ and together, we could co-create new truths, new thoughts, and new ideas, with that shared understanding’… Despite this seemingly ‘ultimate’ desire –that as yet remains to be engaged- I still have this inexplicable wish to try and illuminate a bit more of the metaphorical darkness for that silent majority, most of whom will not be open to it in the first place… call me crazy...

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… That’s a surprising belief coming from someone who is investing years and years into the written word… I’m guessing we can’t count on any pictures in your upcoming volumes either, now can we?...


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… ‘Prototypes of higher cultural models –in ones own life?’… You mean ‘living the dream’ so to speak, or walking the mystical walk, as it were?... That certainly makes sense in many respects. However, is this a more enlightened version of the ‘be the change’ you wish to see analogy? But then we come up against one of those eternal, philosophical questions; “are artists born artists, or can they be made into artists?” As one who was ‘born’ an artist, and only knew fellow artists who were born artists themselves, I am quite familiar with the way things have seemingly ‘always been.’ As one who was also born an idealist, I have to believe in the improbable…

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I am now going to try and generate the billions needed to create these models.

… I’m sure you’re making a pun here right? We don’t need billions for people to self-generate individualized prototypes of higher cultural models… we only need to generate an ‘interest’ to do so… and that doesn’t require billions… just a good –and maybe even a Great- new cultural metaphor, for our new cultural prototypes…

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   In my sovereignty book, I have to go in there and change som lingo...such as instead of calling the teaming masses of blubber people "non-creatives" I am going to try and convey the idea that we are all potential whole enlightened people...some have just not yet discovered their source ground and cosmic resources.

… hehehe, that’s pretty funny. I remember years ago when I was trying to come to terms with similar quandaries, and in an effort to show less judgment, I began leaning more towards the dichotomies between ‘intense thinkers versus un-intense thinkers. Your term ‘non-creatives’ shows that we have crossed mutual territory -although ‘teaming masses of blubber people’ does have a rather jovial ring to it…

… Now then, Awakening Sovereignty, Awakening the Body, and Awakening the Soul. Are these the three books you were talking about? I thought with BOK, you had two others. This seems more like these three books and BOK which equates to four books, correct? Damn, I can hardly write one, and you’ve got four… Good for you!...

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You can't journey in the same place. Its not like north is bad, it is just that I am more comfortable with southern madness than northern madness...I don't have the strength to endure it any longer.

… I don’t like this northern madness any more than you do, either. Then again, I’m not too hip about eastern, western, or even southern madness, for that matter… I’m pretty sure that there’s no escaping it, no matter which direction the compass points… However as long as there's at least a slim to no chance of ‘transforming’ the madness, then personally, I’m for transformation, if, for no other reason, to keep feeding the madness -is just plain madness... 
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« Reply #116 on: September 28, 2009, 06:48:58 AM »

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I call this 'interest' an 'engine' The pervasive metaphors have their own engines that drive them. Any competing metaphor will need a similar source of power. Just like an organism, a metaphor starts out frail and dependent upon its parents, but then it needs to have a way to sustain itself in the world. These weening and fledging processes are crucial, in my view.
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« Reply #117 on: September 28, 2009, 07:28:47 AM »

Yep, 3 awakening books and one for the teaming heaps of blubber people. Then one on cycles and alchemical permaculture.

 I could be on this earth 50 million years living hand to mouth and spewing out books and nothing would ever change. Only the powerful imprint generated by enormous capital will change anything in any lasting way...Jesus had it wrong over the lillies in the field. At least I am more pragmatic...to hell with idealism...all it gets you is trodden on and reviled. The world is in frenzied feasting mode...and so you/I have to present a feast to the masses.
Books...what a waste of time...really they are for my friends who already think like I do...international calling cards to gather my people for the next phases. I plan to make an Ark that will be cast forth into infinity.
I have to embark on this futile escapade of book writing so that I can stop writing books and throw my computer into the sea at the equator.

You see, far greater men and women than me have expressed their beauty...and little has changed in the gross bowel movements of the human endeavor.
That is why it is so easy to weep over the life of a Jacob Boehme and the countless geniuses like him that have bled themselves into a stone dumb world.

I know eventually the baseline sensitivity to genius will eventually rise, but this will take hundreds or thousands of years...and the barbarian hoards are continuing to degenerate into insentience...and so many cannot even partake in the "human" experience.

I watched Lawnmower Man for the first time last night...it says it all. Totally awesome.

• Stockholm Syndrome—misplaced loyalty to an abusive patriarchal figure (“protector”) due to abusive fear damage to the self-making centers of the brain which otherwise would produce an objective distain or distancing from the abuser. Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in abducted hostages, in which the hostage shows signs of loyalty to the hostage-taker. Entire countries can be spiritually abducted and held hostage in this way through infantile dependency generated by stun damage to the reptilian brain…such is evident in the USA after 911, where the true perpetrators were not brought to justice, as would be expected in a sane rational world.


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« Reply #118 on: September 28, 2009, 11:22:12 AM »


This is not a shocker, as it was rumored that as much as $160 Billion in bullion was stored under the Trade Center. They must have been short on manpower in taking the stuff out on 911 because one of the trucks was still found in a tunnel...the Feds knowing exactly where it was...excavated the gold. http://angelsfortruth.com/Follow%20The%20Gold.html

Meanwhile, the bailout's cost has ballooned to $8.5 trillion, not counting the $5.2 trillion in Fannie and Freddie guarantees. (To be sure, taxpayers will recover part of that $13.7 trillion, a figure larger than the combined totals of every war this country has ever fought.)

Tell me the American people are not screwed. nope Embarrassed
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I call this 'interest' an 'engine' The pervasive metaphors have their own engines that drive them. Any competing metaphor will need a similar source of power. Just like an organism, a metaphor starts out frail and dependent upon its parents, but then it needs to have a way to sustain itself in the world. These weening and fledging processes are crucial, in my view.

… I call this engine an ‘interest.’ Whether this weening is crucial or not, I cannot be sure. Although I am pretty sure the end result is essential –new metaphors for a new millennium…  bow
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