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December 21, 2009, 04:38:06 PM »
Versions of "ignorance machine" from Aussieland: " phenomenal consensus - behavioural behemoth - co-creation of defenses - unconscious con-sensual trance - contagious national trance - merciless, wealthy and wise - your Time's anaesthetist - fear to be/see world - impacted psychic guilt mimicry - consolidated review - stunned house of safety - pan-epidemic of habit - my. pet humans' democracy - hurtloveheirs - the ploy of the employed - metaminimalise "just say no" - swim between the flags - the stone first caste - the dumb farm - doctor clock's kin - the 2 bar blues - cereglamourbrum - the game of "fetch" - rush hour in the auto-immune syndrome - synergy of personal neuroses - inherited subsumed difference - agog despot - voyeur's eyrie - shotgun wedding of hemispheres - materialists' can-can - the imperative to agree on what tomorrow will be - and so on ad infinitum, like filo pastry - none of them really do it as many variants of ignorance machines as there are people..."
So from this help I settled on "co-created defense trance" awesome huh!
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If individuals in a group are not yet sovereign they are fused in an amorphous mass of dependencies and expectations from which the sovereign condition is unlikely to evolve. This prepersonally fused social style may have worked in simpler tribal times when there were predators and environmental factors that threatened the group as a whole. But nowadays such codependency and the manipulations that enforce it are actually a danger to the clan and a detriment to human cultural evolution as a whole. It threatens the well-being of a family or group because individuals are not encouraged and supported in their personal genius, but are expected to sacrifice their personal lives to serve the group on a more mundane, security based level, which is never satisfied. Such infantilism within a community arises from our primitive wiring for animal bonding and it can lay to waste our higher human potential and our well-being in general.
Prepersonal tribal bonding becomes an agreement to go through the motions of a human life without really showing up as individuals. For showing up breaks the trance of infantile dependency and the Tall Poppy Syndrome or “jealousy over the light” comes into play. And so the best in us, our greatest gift and honorable solutions can become stifled under the weight of the negative collective unconscious. The difficulty of being an emerging sovereign tied to this type of primitive group dynamic, is that you will be condemned for both not pandering to the endless appetite for security to people who should be generating their own “security”…and you will also be condemned for showing up in your genius, for this intimidates those who have abdicated their own “genius”. I see this double bind as a temporary difficulty arising during our transition toward the realization of the personal level. We have to honor the ways of the past that have allowed us the opportunity of Self-realization, but we cannot go back to prepersonal enmeshment. We must do what we can to make this process conscious to our family or community, while encouraging the individual genius and skills of each member.
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In the disease model of human community we are broken, hurting and need fixing and we are all supposed to “support” each other in healing, becoming whole and the general uplift of our circumstances. Guilt, duty, shame, blame, exclusion and all manner of negative ploys are used to try and enforce the mutual support agreement. But without sovereignty there is not enough support in the entire universe to keep such an emotionally heavy system afloat. Because this so called healing paradigm is built on scarcity, decrepitude and fear it is unlikely to inspire great heights of achievement, health or abundance. A social model based on play, fun and the mutual sharing of character and genius is a much higher energetic which in turn produces far greater healing, empowerment, productivity and love. Life is meant to be fun…and fun is the fastest growth curve away from the misery of our lower natures. We “develop” our way to greater wholeness and there is no better agent of development than PLAY!
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What a terrific idea Jana!
I'd love to play my way to wholeness with you.
Any idea how we could begin to model that together here?
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Dunno Feral, play is my general approach to life, but it is hard to find grown up play children to play with. They are normally suck buddies and meanies.
I came up with that paragraph in contemplating the problem I am having with a family member in that she is beating me up for not taking her healing-support model seriously...whereas she is threatened by all the developmental stuff I hand out...people are impossible, I am just going to start speaking my truth. Play is not something you do, it is something you are.
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Quote from: Jana on December 27, 2009, 07:58:26 AM
it is hard to find grown up play children to play with.
There once was a woman named Jana
Who cognized her way to Nirvana
But when she got there
The cupboards were bare
So she filled them with giggling prana
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There once was a girl so advanced
That she saw that the world was in trance
She wrote a prescription
From ancient Egyptians
That told us we all need to dance
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There once was a Kiwi so smart
Her intellect right off the chart
Kundalini came knocking
The fans they came flocking
When it joined with her frolicking heart
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good ones Feral
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http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=555
—John Pilger is my favorite journalist...he tells it like it is...and shows that spirituality is not different or separate from politics, economics or basic human decency.
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