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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2009, 07:49:48 AM »

You're right, these tend to stack up rather quickly once you get started.

•Chronic Codependency- Becoming overly attached to a problem that’s outside of your control and consumes your psychic energy to such an extent that your basic needs suffer.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2009, 06:57:03 AM »

Michael,

On second thought, Levy’s article is spot on. The paranoia is, in a sense, justified. After re-reading it, I no longer think that the tone is unduly alarmist. It’s just that the ideas were somewhat alarming to me, at first. I don’t find all of his terminology helpful, but the clarity and lucidity of his exposition are impressive.

Spirituality is about examining and consciously integrating the archetypes and other thoughtforms that animate our psyches. The unexamined life is not worth living, because someone else is living it; not us. Examination in this sense means bringing the unconscious forces that compel us from ‘behind the scenes’ into concordance with each other and with our conscious mind. Inner conflict, like all conflict, cannot be resolved unless the key issues are brought into consciousness and examined.

As for strategy, the first step is increasing the ‘depth of consciousness’ – that is, to mine the unconscious for the operative forces and expose them to consciousness. The question arises: is it possible to convince the psyche's conscious and unconscious aspects to adopt a better set of thoughtforms using only rational means? I doubt it. Can you convince someone to love someone else based on rational arguments? I don’t think so. By analogy then, these thoughtforms, such as the archetypes, are not adopted or rejected based on rational considerations. Rather, it’s the emotional content that makes the difference for this type of change to occur.

Some type of conscious access to the emotional substrata of the psyche is in order.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2009, 03:51:26 PM »

Yea Levy is one of the most lucid bods out there...on a par with John Lamb Lash...both of them are master poets and synthesizes...their writing is so rich.
Few are doing decent shadow work, and shadow work and visioneering are the two most important areas we need to focus on in the psyche right now in order to not simply generate more of the same shit. Paul Levy and Robert A. Masters do shadow real well.

I have a problem with using arcane imagery terms like demon and possessed though simply because these might regress certain new age and spiritualist individuals back even more into medieval-think, and I have already noted a slide into paranoia, fear and demonization arising since the George Bush presidency. In rational company however these arcane terms could be freely used as a kind of holographic link with the mental developmental state of times past...in order to cut thru the dissociation/separation that rationalism tends to generate...to look at our condition from a more viseral perspective.

Pitfall to sovereignty...automation
• Autonomous Complexes—If we don’t have a sovereign operational muse and original thought…then we are likely to be little else but possessed by unconscious complexes…that is, generally composed of mere reactivity to what the world would make of us. We are a species possessed by autonomous complexes, because pyramid societies act to dehumanize people, and sovereignty is the essence of what it is to be human. Without sovereignty we are automatons blindly engaged in reactive compulsions over which we have little control…because we cannot stand outside of our automated self with the focused power of the unique self-originating perspective.

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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2009, 06:45:07 AM »

Autonomous complex operational definition: noticeable effects of a personality arising from a constellation of invisible psychic machinations which in turn arise from an invisible core wound or desire. Though invisible, the machinations can be inferred from the visible effects and the core wound or desire can then be inferred from the machinations. The core wound or desire is like the grain of sand inside the oyster. The machinations are like the mother of pearl secreted by the oyster, and the visible effects are like the pearl.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2009, 09:32:13 AM »

Yea this pearl secretion process is what Rudi called spiritual cannibalism.


"The title SPIRITUAL CANNIBALISM, attempts to put into perspective the relationship of human beings to one another. When we eat fruit, the skin provides roughage essential to our growth. In human relationships, too, roughage is essential. The total person must be consumed to support life in its depth---to allow for creative interchange between one human being and another, and eventually between a human being and God. We cannot limit our intake to the qualities that are "easy to take"---we must welcome those that force us to change the patterns we have been able to deal with in the past. We must come to understand that everything is part of perfection and must be taken in a state of surrender; it must be digested and transcended. life must be consumed whole---with all its tensions, pain and joy." Rudi


• Hobbling Emotions, Beliefs, and Self-Images—Guilt and shame are an emotional indulgence that enables us to remain immature and avoid feeling worthy enough to have the experience we feel is reserved for better, more real people. Another spiritual block is the combination of self-pity and fear which is just a manifestation of resistance to working deeper. These problems of narcissistic fear are overcome by rising above mediocrity and the unconscious false-safety of codependency, and going up the scale of evolution to differentiation, soul-muse contact, original thought, innovation, and subsequent creativity. The inner parent (pilot) must be trained to encourage, reassure, compliment, assist, acknowledge, attend, celebrate, harmonize, organize, accommodate, articulate, assimilate and integrate. For if we can’t love ourselves nobody will.
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2009, 09:52:48 AM »


The military-industrial complex is an interesting example of a physical manifestation of a collective psychological complex. I can’t put my finger on the exact core wound or desire. Someone slighted someone, way back when. Anyway, the psychic machinations clearly involve a constellation of distrust, paranoia, insecurity and jealousy.
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2009, 10:56:25 AM »

The way we have been doing civilization over the last 10,000 years - the military-industrial complex IS the degenerative complex. If we can master our hubris and increase our desire for a joyous, healthy, long life...we can stop selling ourselves short and rise to our true hu-man potential. We have to start with the basics to become sane and awake enough to know who we are, what to do and where we are going. The first three things on the redemptive agenda is detox, raw and remineralization. There is a kind of psychic-spiritual loop occurring between us...at the end of an interglacial...and the folks that were on the earth during the birth of this post-ice age period. We are in a sense having to sense into their sobriety in order to get a lucid picture of what we have done to ourselves in the last 10,000 years.

http://budurl.com/feelyounger  —Inspiring talk David Wolfe’s longevity program
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2009, 12:58:23 PM »

There are four great stories that come to mind that involve a ‘change of heart’

There’s the story of John Newton, how he had a revelation while bringing a load of slaves from Africa, he turned the ship around, took the people back home and wrote “Amazing Grace” The other one is the story of St Paul on the road to Damascus, how he saw the spirit of Christ and decided to become a Christian. Then there’s Ebenezer Scrooge from Dickens’s Christmas Carol and Seuss’s Grinch that also had a change of heart.

The idea is that changing thoughtforms from paranoid/selfish to benevolent/selfless is a common theme, but not a common occurrence. We need a new wholesale saint-maker program. Our religions have fallen down on the job.
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« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2009, 10:30:49 PM »

… I just read a comment on the ‘Common Dreams’ website where I was reminded about something John F. Kennedy said regarding war and peace;

“John F. Kennedy noted that you'll never put an end to war until pacifists have some actual and widely held respect in human societies…”

… Here’s to the memes of Peace –and the global education of their highly critical place, and necessity, thereof...
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2009, 08:58:27 AM »

Peace-making and saint-making...that is the mystic civilization won't come about until we stop collectively lobotomizing ourselves with the nasty elements of our lower nature and set about building up the inner parents, or the sovereign King and Queen functions of our higher cognitive capacities. We have been made into obedient, dysfunctional and disagreeable children for so long...and the entire species is operating this way...that it is hard to even grasp what our actualized humanity is like...so quickly are we brought down into the fight-flight of petty power play.
Commercial spiritual tuition is not helping us evolve from this child-like dependent condition because it seldom involves self-direction, gnosis, or equal status. But financially exploits the brokenness, the pain of incompletion, the sense of inner abandonment and the lack of a center of self or inner cosmic home. "Spirit for the dollar" keeps the teacher-student power differential alive with the same bad brain damaging behaviors we experienced in the family home.

Always and for all time we must turn within to the source of our light which is always there should we choose to look for it.
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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2009, 06:37:15 AM »

The Almighty Buck is the idol of the age. Money is the surrogate for genuine sovereignty. It acts as a soothing salve that mitigates the self torture of our inherited selfish frustration and insecurity. It softens the landing as we plumb the depths of our selfish depravity. As the primary underwriter of narcissism, money is the glue that bonds us to superficial reflections, making it appear as though we have separate identities.

Which reminds me, who's funding this website? Michael? I'd be willing to contribute a few bucks. Let me know.
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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2009, 11:45:00 AM »

ahhh yes.. but was IS money?  a value of what? Beats me
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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2009, 12:45:16 PM »

Money will be used for an exchange medium in love and spiritual and intellectual power...until we evolve beyond a money economy...which I think will probably take a thousand years or so, excepting small pockets of advanced human communities. I wanted to create one to blow the top off of creative inertia.
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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2009, 01:16:55 PM »

picking up on Francis' query above, and trying to make the abstract concrete: mD does have fairly modest Heartmind expenses, and his admirable labor of love here should not include financial pain. He has to pay our server(?) and my vacation expenses Roll Eyes. There used to be a "donate" function on the homepage, and in his modesty, mD axed it. My sense is all is pretty good now, and sharing the financial costs going forward is something for us to keep in mind. Amazing site, amazing Man, our mD bow
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« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2009, 03:39:12 PM »

Well shite, I have a donate button on my site courtesy of Michael that no one attends to...so Michael should have his own disregarded donate button also. Donate doesn't work anymore...if you listen to some of the ultra best podcasts on the web they are hurting to stay alive even with subscriber sections. Best way to stay afloat is to sell products. I was thinking also that Michael should do a little advertising on this site. Why not?

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