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« Reply #75 on: March 15, 2010, 11:31:46 AM »

Phewy, thats just a "normal" upbringing in Borg society...couldn't have been any different. Plus the advantages of upbringing, the magic of rural NZ and germanic roots outweighed the bad. I was very priviledged. I would like to do some films on the sovereignty of children thou. If I wasn't the excluded third girl I wouldn't be alone in the US now killing the Borg with my pen. boxing
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« Reply #76 on: March 15, 2010, 03:34:18 PM »

Jnana, i have admiration for your Vision as well as your bliss gnosis somatic potential bow pray...and you got as much chance of "killing the Borg with your pen" as i did with my tennis racquet nope... embody the Change and trust loving support will show up  Kiss
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« Reply #77 on: March 15, 2010, 03:53:36 PM »

Yes embody the change, but one has to keep moving also towards people that can handle our level of awakeness, otherwise the Borg tends to demonize us rather than grooving on our energy.

I may not kill the Borg with my pen, but I sure am going to seduce it into submission, and find my sci-psi-phi mystic friends. The sovereign doesn't need any healing or support apart from nature, but he or she does need playmates. Cheesy
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« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2010, 12:59:10 PM »

Again, I disagree that a sovereign doesn't need any healing or support apart from nature.  Rather I think every human being needs support and reflection and healing and acknowledgment, and care and belonging, sovereign or otherwise.  I believe we all need each other, and we are all needed.  There is a difference however in being in karmic, reactive relationship such as I assume you refer to as Borg relationships, and what is actually possible to evolve in sovereign relationships.  The difference is that a sovereign person knows their needs, wants, and intentions; they have a right to engage others in having those needs, wants and intentions brought forward; they know that any person who is engaged is free to engage or not engage as best suits themselves.  Again as Sam Keene wrote:  Love and do what you want.    Most of us want to engage others, help them out, be their mate, hang out, give them stuff, mill around with them and so on.  Having needs, and needing other people is not a problem.  Not knowing how to communicate those needs, not standing for your entitlement to have needs, or (yikes) be needy now and again, or choosing people to hang out with who, for whatever reason, have no desire, ability or intention to take your needs into account IS a problem.  For me, the learning curve that I am presently on is about learning to generative of what I want or need..... and how this is not done in isolation as has been my history, but actually learning to put myself out there and include other people, and then STAYING in awareness with WHATEVER arises including disappointment, rejection, abandonment, and then really learning what it means to be generative in that millieu.  In the past, I have usually gone numb and thrown in the hat, so to speak, whenever I risked something and was disappointed with the outcome.   I am changing this aspect of myself.
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« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2010, 03:11:54 PM »

I don't have the lingo quite yet, I will in a few weeks.
Healing is out, wholing is in.
Support is out, play and cocreativity is in.
Fixing is out, contribution is in.
Teaching is out, demonstration is in.

It is a different take on all things...coming from satiety, satisfaction, fullness, wholeness, Source empowerment or sovereignty.
The difference in being sovereign is that we come from an a priori completeness such that our action is radiant being, rather than effort and doing.
In this way we operate synergistically and syntropically to build energy, love, consciousness and humor.
The presovereign seek to be made complete by their actions so that there is always an element of need, rather than play, joy and freedom.
In this way the sovereigns being is laced with the sense of infinitude, mystery, depth and non-dual perfection...because the sovereign is mindful of conditioning, but is not limited by it.
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« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2010, 05:46:10 PM »

i like your new lingo except for demonstration. of course it all depends on how YOU define it. if you mean it as being a living example than i can go with that, otherwise it just means showing, which means teaching (to me).
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« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2010, 08:56:26 PM »

demonstration to me means "show by example"  not sure of the exact right word yet.
You can see that I am trying to move out of the therapy culture in which we remain forever in the deprivation state seeking salvation.
If you begin to sense what sovereignty actually is there is a natural bountiful upwelling of truth, goodness and beauty. This empowerment arising from within boosts our immune system, alivens the heart and brain, strengthens the muscles...and basically a sense of wholeness and integration arises with which we express our will. As such all the immature forms of requiring support, affirmation, permission, healing, tuition, direction etc... from outside sources are superceded by our internal gyro. Furthermore our motivation and facilitation to find "empowering" outside resources becomes more precise and expanded. This is simply embodiment of the truth of who you are...which in time increases a life of lived gnosis and freedom. Lips Sealed
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« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2010, 02:20:58 PM »

You can see that I am trying to move out of the therapy culture in which we remain forever in the deprivation state seeking salvation. The original meaning of therapy is “service to the gods.” The bodymind schism is a defense of a weak, immature, damaged or unintegrated ego…and therapy is undertaken to return the “whole” to God. But if we have forgotten the true meaning of healing, which is to surrender to the Universal, then we are caught simply in a therapizing loop - in a state of perpetual weakness and vulnerability.
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« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2010, 04:58:33 AM »

Radical Jana. Good inspiration  take a bow

On a lighter note, what is an Alpha male to do when there no more women in distress to save from the dragon keeping her imprisoned?  Tongue

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-3-2010/male-inequality
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« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2010, 08:53:41 AM »

Firstly it is not Alpha Males that save damsels from dragons...it is Alpha Males in training who pit themselves against the dragon in order to avenge the negative feminine or mother abandonment.

With the beginnings of agriculture women were relegated to domesticated labor animals, while power accumulated in the male side of the population with the establishment of the patriarchal religions, war and pillage. The dependent and subservient position of women in a culture of violence prevents the divine feminine from fully emerging in both men and women. Thus masculine consciousness took hold in both. Intuition, or female consciousness, is the source of wisdom which fuels the purpose, focus and moral integrity of masculine awareness. Presovereign, enslaved women cannot feed their children their souls, nor the deep sophic wisdom necessary for the establishment of the whole human. When humanity moved away from The Goddess or Sophia, the pregnant Void or Unified Field as God and established warring Sky Gods in her place...we all but cut ourselves off from the source of Spirit itself.  When we reestablish sacred childrearing by whole or sovereign women...only then can we build a sustainable, spiritual culture that is not going to fall under the mechanisms of its own inner disease. Soil and soul are synonymous in the larger scheme of things.

“With agriculture usually come division of labor, increased sexual inequality, and the beginnings of social hierarchy. Priests, kings, and organized, impersonal warfare all seem to come together in one package…Kingship and warfare may have originated as survival strategies. Then, perhaps civilization itself became a mechanism for re-traumatizing each new generation, thus preserving and regenerating its own psycho-social basis…Even the democratic industrial state functions essentially as an instrument of multinational corporate-style colonial oppression and domestic enslavement…Systems theorists Tom Peters and Peter Senge are advocating the transformation of hierarchical, bureaucratized organizations into more decentralized, autonomous, spontaneous ones.”
www.eco-action.org/dt/critique.html  —The Primitivist Critique of Civilization by Richard Heinberg; www.museletter.com/

“In particular, recent discoveries suggest that the adoption of agriculture, supposedly our most decisive step toward a better life, was in many ways a catastrophe from which we have never recovered. With agriculture came the gross social and sexual inequality, the disease and despotism, that curse our existence. Archaeologists studying the rise of farming have reconstructed a crucial stage at which we made the worst mistake in human history. Forced to choose between limiting population or trying to increase food production, we chose the latter and ended up with starvation, warfare, and tyranny.”
www.ditext.com/diamond/mistake.html  —"The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race," by Jared Diamond

Thus the plague of paranoia, arrogance and dominance that is now driving us headlong toward apocalypse is the consequence of a culture of fear. If the structure of our hubric culture, from the womb to the grave, prevents the realization of our shamanic, mystic or unitive Self, then we must transcend that culture in order to save our soul. We do that by learning to love beyond the fear programming. Primitivism is the perennial belief in the necessity of a return to origins and the superiority of a “deeper” life close to nature. This is simply the intuition to overcome the toxic fear and combative position of the ego’s self defense system, to reconnect to the divinity within and the Self as the center of gravity. When we reconnect and rectify agriculture and land use, such as with permaculture and soil building, we then build honorable foundations for a sustainable, morally sound civilization. Good soil is the foundations of every civilization. To move out of the predatory/parasitic mode of corporate consumerism we must reinstall the electrical mineral basis to life. Darren Doherty says the level of land degradation on this planet is unfathomable. The good news is we are now waking up and choosing to readapt ourselves to nature.

“Voices of The First Day: Awakening in the Aboriginal Dreamtime,” by Robert Lawlor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDMg6W95-2s  —Rx for the Biosphere, Darren Doherty. Excellent series on the importance of sinking carbon into soil organic matter and soil building.
http://eric.com.au/ —Environmental Research & Information Consortium (ERIC). Advanced soil building researchers who advocate building soil organic matter as the main carbon sink.
http://carbonfarmersofamerica.com/index.htm  —Topsoil by Abe Collins

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« Reply #85 on: March 20, 2010, 06:39:00 PM »

here's an awesome talk from the Women at the Edge of Evolution series with Melissa Etheridge :
http://attendthisevent.com/?eventid=11758161
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« Reply #86 on: March 20, 2010, 07:52:28 PM »

I listened to the Carolyine Myss one, it was really amazing, archetypes and their shadows. IT all just seemd to fit and make sense
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« Reply #87 on: March 20, 2010, 08:31:09 PM »

Yea, Melissa is awesome.
However, these women have to get hip to the way that the patriarchy...males, and the Borg are using their raw power in the service of their own drive for power.
For example....Al Gore set up his carbon trading biz prior to the launch of his movie.
Carbon trading does zippo to actually solving the degratory process of modern civilization.
Melissa...coming from good intentions was USED by the forces of evil to maintain the status quo.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2010/02feb/RIR-100213.php  —Peter Taylor - The Corporatization of the Environmental Movement
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« Reply #88 on: March 21, 2010, 10:52:34 AM »

I Just listened to the Etheridge talk, I thought she was awesome..honest, insightful.
Lots of good talks on that Women on the edge of evolution, I see Elizabeth Debold and some of the well known faces from I-I.

Oh and I made a mistake, the caroline Myss one was from The Aware Show. SO many of these things around at the moment
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« Reply #89 on: March 22, 2010, 03:16:32 PM »

Girls becoming women telling their stories to the world  Wink
Helping make women in distress become a thing of the past

Hidden World Of Girls: Share Your Stories

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124122126

"Among the Tuaregs, if someone doesn't love you anymore, you have to leave him," she says. "They say that the more times you divorce, the more beautiful you are — and successful. The women throw a party when they divorce. The divorce party is a bigger party than the wedding."
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