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« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2010, 12:49:42 PM »

From Yahoo News:

Environmental 'minefield' has been ignored for decades.

More than 27,000 abandoned oil and gas wells lurk in the hard rock beneath the Gulf of Mexico, an environmental minefield that has been ignored for decades. No one — not industry, not government — is checking to see if they are leaking, an Associated Press investigation shows.
The oldest of these wells were abandoned in the late 1940s, raising the prospect that many deteriorating sealing jobs are already failing.
The AP investigation uncovered particular concern with 3,500 of the neglected wells — those characterized in federal government records as "temporarily abandoned."
Regulations for temporarily abandoned wells require oil companies to present plans to reuse or permanently plug such wells within a year, but the AP found that the rule is routinely circumvented, and that more than 1,000 wells have lingered in that unfinished condition for more than a decade. About three-quarters of temporarily abandoned wells have been left in that status for more than a year, and many since the 1950s and 1960s — eveb though sealing procedures for temporary abandonment are not as stringent as those for permanent closures.
As a forceful reminder of the potential harm, the well beneath BP's Deepwater Horizon rig was being sealed with cement for temporary abandonment when it blew April 20, leading to one of the worst environmental disasters in the nation's history. BP alone has abandoned about 600 wells in the Gulf, according to government data.
There's ample reason for worry about all permanently and temporarily abandoned wells — history shows that at least on land, they often leak. Wells are sealed underwater much as they are on land. And wells on land and in water face similar risk of failure. Plus, records reviewed by the AP show that some offshore wells have failed.
Experts say such wells can repressurize, much like a dormant volcano can awaken. And years of exposure to sea water and underground pressure can cause cementing and piping to corrode and weaken.
"You can have changing geological conditions where a well could be repressurized," said Andy Radford, a petroleum engineer for the American Petroleum Institute trade group.
Whether a well is permanently or temporarily abandoned, improperly applied or aging cement can crack or shrink, independent petroleum engineers say. "It ages, just like it does on buildings and highways," said Roger Anderson, a Columbia University petroleum geophysicist who has conducted research on commercial wells.
Despite the likelihood of leaks large and small, though, abandoned wells are typically not inspected by industry or government.
Oil company representatives insist that the seal on a correctly plugged offshore well will last virtually forever.
"It's in everybody's interest to do it right," said Bill Mintz, a spokesman for Apache Corp., which has at least 2,100 abandoned wells in the Gulf, according to government data.
Officials at the U.S. Interior Department, which oversees the agency that regulates federal leases in the Gulf and elsewhere, did not answer repeated questions regarding why there are no inspections of abandoned wells.
State officials estimate that tens of thousands are badly sealed, either because they predate strict regulation or because the operating companies violated rules. Texas alone has plugged more than 21,000 abandoned wells to control pollution, according to the state comptroller's office.
Offshore, but in state waters, California has resealed scores of its abandoned wells since the 1980s.
In deeper federal waters, though — despite the similarities in how such wells are constructed and how sealing procedures can fail — the official policy is out-of-sight, out-of-mind.
The U.S. Minerals Management Service — the regulatory agency recently renamed the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement — relies on rules that have few real teeth. Once an oil company says it will permanently abandon a well, it has one year to complete the job. MMS mandates that work plans be submitted and a report filed afterward.
Unlike California regulators, MMS doesn't typically inspect the job, instead relying on the paperwork.
The fact there are so many wells that have been classified for decades as temporarily abandoned suggests that paperwork can be shuffled at MMS without any real change beneath the water.
With its weak system of enforcement, MMS imposed fines in a relative handful of cases: just $440,000 on seven companies from 2003-2007 for improper plug-and-abandonment work.
Companies permanently abandon wells when they are no longer useful. Afterward, no one looks methodically for leaks, which can't easily be detected from the surface anyway. And no one in government or industry goes underwater to inspect, either.
Government regulators and industry officials say abandoned offshore wells are presumed to be properly plugged and are expected to last indefinitely without leaking. Only when pressed do these officials acknowledge the possibility of leaks.
Despite warnings of leaks, government and industry officials have never bothered to assess the extent of the problem, according to an extensive AP review of records and regulations.
That means no one really knows how many abandoned wells are leaking — and how badly.
The AP documented an extensive history of warnings about environmental dangers related to abandoned wells:
• The General Accountability Office, which investigates for Congress, warned as early as 1994 that leaks from offshore abandoned wells could cause an "environmental disaster," killing fish, shellfish, mammals and plants. In a lengthy report, GAO pressed for inspections of abandonment jobs, but nothing came of the recommendation.
• A 2006 Environmental Protection Agency report took notice of the overall issue regarding wells on land: "Historically, well abandonment and plugging have generally not been properly planned, designed and executed." State officials say many leaks come from wells abandoned in recent decades, when rules supposedly dictated plugging procedures. And repairs are so routine that terms have been coined to describe the work: "replugging" or the "re-abandonment."
• A GAO report in 1989 provided a foreboding prognosis about the health of the country's inland oil and gas wells. The watchdog agency quoted EPA data estimating that up to 17 percent of the nation's wells on land had been improperly plugged. If that percentage applies to offshore wells, there could be 4,600 badly plugged wells in the Gulf of Mexico alone.
• According to a 2001 study commissioned by MMS, agency officials were "concerned that some abandoned oil wells in the Gulf may be leaking crude oil." But nothing came of that warning either.
The study targeted a well 20 miles off Louisiana that had been reported leaking five years after it was plugged and abandoned. The researchers tried unsuccessfully to use satellite radar images to locate the leak.
But John Amos, the geologist who wrote the study, told AP that MMS withheld critical information that could have helped verify if he had pinpointed the problem. "I kind of suspected that this was a project almost designed to fail," Amos said. He said the agency refused to tell him "how big and widespread a problem" they were dealing with in the Gulf.
Amos is now director of SkyTruth, a nonprofit group that uses satellite imagery to detect environmental problems. He still believes that technology could work on abandoned wells.
MMS, though, hasn't followed up on the work. And Interior Department spokeswoman Kendra Barkoff said agency inspectors would be present for permanent plugging jobs "only when something unusual is expected." She also said inspectors would check later "only if there's a noted leak." But she did not respond to requests for examples.
Companies may be tempted to skimp on sealing jobs, which are expensive and slow offshore. It would cost the industry at least $3 billion to permanently plug the 10,500 now-active wells and the 3,500 temporarily abandoned ones in the Gulf, according to an AP analysis of MMS data.
The AP analysis indicates that more than half of the 50,000 wells ever drilled on federal leases beneath the Gulf have now been abandoned. Some 23,500 are permanently sealed. Another 12,500 wells are plugged on one branch while being allowed to remain active in a different branch.
Government records do not indicate how many temporarily abandoned wells have been returned to service over the years. Federal rules require only an annual review of plans to reuse or permanently seal the 3,500 temporarily abandoned wells, but companies are using this provision to keep the wells in limbo indefinitely.
Petroleum engineers say abandoned offshore wells can fail from faulty work, age and drilling-induced or natural changes below the seabed. Maurice Dusseault, a geologist at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada, says U.S. regulators "assume that once a well is sealed, they're safe — but that's not always the case."
Even fully depleted wells can flow again because of fluid or gas injections to stimulate nearby wells or from pressure exerted by underlying aquifers.
Permanently abandoned wells are corked with cement plugs typically 100-200 feet long. They are placed in targeted zones to block the flow of oil or gas. Heavy drilling fluid is added. Offshore, the piping is cut off 15 feet below the sea floor.
Wells are abandoned temporarily for a variety of reasons. The company may be re-evaluating a well's potential or developing a plan to overcome a drilling problem or damage from a storm. Some owners temporarily abandon wells to await a rise in oil prices.
Since companies may put a temporarily abandoned well back into service, such holes typically will be sealed with fewer plugs, less testing and a metal cap to stop corrosion from sea water.
In the Deepwater Horizon blowout, investigators believe the cement may have failed, perhaps never correctly setting deep within the well. Sometimes gas bubbles form as cement hardens, providing an unwanted path for oil or gas to burst through the well and reach the surface.
The other key part of an abandoned wells — the steel pipe liner known as casing — can also rust through over time.
MMS personnel do sometimes spot smaller oily patches on the Gulf during flyovers. Operators are also supposed to report any oil sheens they encounter. Typically, though, MMS learns of a leak only when someone spots it by chance.
In the end, the Coast Guard's Marine Safety Laboratory handles little more than 200 cases of oil pollution each year.
And manager Wayne Gronlund says it's often impossible to tell leaking wells from natural seeps, where untold thousands of barrels of oil and untold millions of cubic feet of gas escape annually through cracks that permeate the sea floor.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100707/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_abandoned_wells
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« Reply #106 on: July 09, 2010, 10:13:25 PM »

Consider now, when they say it is coned, contained, capped or sealed we won't believe them. Beats me

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0927390420100710
* BP's blown-out Macondo well could be contained -- but not plugged -- by Sunday or Monday, when a new cap and seal designed to capture more crude oil is installed on top of the well, the U.S. official overseeing the spill cleanup said on Friday.
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« Reply #107 on: July 15, 2010, 06:55:59 AM »


http://truthfrequencyradio.com/?p=2041  —Nice lengthy radio show riff on BP Burp

Waiting...suppose well know this afternoon.
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« Reply #108 on: July 15, 2010, 09:17:10 PM »

Bravo bow
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« Reply #109 on: July 17, 2010, 07:18:12 PM »

I am taking it as a necessary reprieve in order to use the July energies to re-generate. We don't know where the fault lines are or if the standing waves created by their release/shut off of the vent will create an earthquake that could manifest geological leaks. Standing waves would go back and forth within the HUGE cavity and possibly build to create crustal shift.
What is important is that we use the chaos to bring about higher order...through death of the old allowing greater life.

The Bleeding Earth talk did mention that the company Rock Bond produces underwater cement of the highest quality. http://www.rockbond.co.uk/  ROCKBOND SCP LTD

Concrete additives have been used since Roman and Egyptian times, when it was discovered that adding volcanic ash to the mix allowed it to set under water.
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« Reply #110 on: July 18, 2010, 03:27:52 PM »

oil clean up methods they havn't tried yet...

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/896.html
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« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2010, 04:09:13 PM »

New Concepts in Global Tectonics Newsletter, no. 45, December, 2007. URL: http://www.ncgt.org/newsletter.php?action=download&id=52
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« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2010, 11:03:32 AM »

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/n5Z9W59Z5ZY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/n5Z9W59Z5ZY</a>
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« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2010, 11:45:51 AM »

Wow, that must be the best piece of art to come out of this thing. Thanks Michael. take a bow

http://www.noaawatch.gov/2010/tc_at03.php  —Looks like Bonnie's taking a dump on Dixieland.
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« Reply #114 on: July 24, 2010, 06:45:39 AM »

You could not make this stuff up! Check this out:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jul/23/deepwater-horizon-oil-rig-alarms
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« Reply #115 on: July 24, 2010, 09:26:13 AM »

yes, Francis.. that's really getting to the point of insanity to get to the point of turning off the alarms and also that instead of fixing what's causing the false alarms it's just so much easier to turn the whole system off.
I've noticed the complete lack of professionalism in all facets of business, from basic customer service to the vital, top end of the hierarchy of corporate control.  I'm not sure when it happened, but when businesses went to becoming L.L.C's (limited liability corporations) the whole nature of responsibility went out the window. since they covered themselves legally in this way there no longer needed to be a system of accountability. the big dogs at the top have their asses covered and that attitude trickles down thru the hierarchy all the way down to the bottom and the whole thing erodes from the inside.
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« Reply #116 on: July 27, 2010, 04:18:40 AM »

BP's estimated total cost for the Gulf oil spill is $30 billion. The government is giving BP a $10 billion tax break from that total. In essence then the U.S. tax payers are coughing up $10 billion out of their own pocket for a multinational capitalist private free enterprise corporation that screwed up. The U.S. government and many corporations are one in the same it appears. There's free enterprise, then there's enslavement to it. How’s unemployment and the educational system doing lately?
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« Reply #117 on: July 27, 2010, 09:16:57 AM »

I like that, enslavement to free enterprise.

In his most influential work, Childhood and Society (1950) Erik Erikson’s stages of psychosocial development describes eight stages from infancy to late adulthood through which a healthily developing human should pass. In each stage the individual is naturally set with new challenges that require the successful completion of earlier stages. It is obvious that if earlier stages not successfully completed reappear as problems in the future. We can see this demand for the natural unfolding of psychological maturity as a species process as well, in that if each generation does not face and accomplish their current evolutionary task in consciousness, then this failure is beset on their children…and so on down the line, generation after generation. This is why “waking up” should be the central human drive beyond mere survival itself.

The task we are charged with at this point in our species development is that of establishing post-conventional morality...for our conventional morality is failing us when our technology, corporations, law, politics and economics do not meet the standards of Universal Law. Moral dilemmas and cognitive dissonance many layers thick are inevitable when our "systems" are not aligned with planetary well-being, but instead are a self reinforcing matrix focused on accumulating profit to the top of the power pyramid. In order to not lose faith in our humanity we must attend to Kohlberg's theory of the development of moral reasoning to consciously move from a corrupt-conventional stage, to at least attempt the post-conventional morality associated with care and compassion for all life. Thereby preserving global conditions for the furtherance of evolution and saving our asses. If we fail to succeed in this moral challenge then as Erikson said, an uncompleted stage of psychosocial development reappears as problems in the future. Along with the increasing complexity of our civilization will be the increasing complexity of our problems, unless we align our civilization with cosmic truth, get real, sane and grow up.

Awakening the sovereignty of each individual so that they are once again plugged into the cosmos and not a derelict culture, is the way to rectify moral sensitivity toward natural or Universal Law so that we can experience the highest degree of our humanity while simultaneously regenerating the earth. Why be less than we can be?
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« Reply #118 on: August 04, 2010, 10:55:06 PM »

http://pesn.com/2010/08/01/9501682_Gull_Loop_Current_Stalls_from_BP_Spill/   --Loop current stalled, may have implications for the Atlantic Conveyer
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« Reply #119 on: August 20, 2010, 02:57:19 AM »

Out of sight, out of mind.

"...an invisible underwater channel just over a mile wide and 650 feet thick. The researchers tracked that channel southwest for 22 miles, until bad weather forced them to stop."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129304546
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