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[jimtzu]

got this in the mail today, has anyone heard of it?  looks interesting.

http://www.globalonenessproject.org/about.php

Our Project...
We are traveling worldwide, filming interviews with people from a variety of disciplines, as they share their stories and insights about ways of living and working from a perspective of oneness.

We invite you to get involved in the project at this initial stage: learn about people we've met so far, watch interviews, get updates on our travels, and share your own ideas for places to go and people to meet.

[Jana]

Sounds positive...

Ken is doing some good in his own way (how do we know that what we do will have positive effects in the world?) and is relatively harmless compared to the forces of evil within the US Government...in fact if everyone would just make it to KW's page then there is hope for humanity. Da even did some good by giving people a dysfunctional family to join in order to work out their childhood problems.
Mitar Tarabich (1829-1899) the Serbian prophet supposedly said

"When they start to meditate more, they will be closer to God's wisdom, but it will be too late because the evil ones will already ravage the whole Earth and men will start to die in great numbers. Then people will run away from the cities to the country and look for the mountains with three crosses, and there, inside, they will be able to breath and drink water. Those who will escape will save themselves and their families, but not for long, because a great famine will appear. There will be plenty of food in towns and villages, but it will be poisoned. Many will eat because of hunger and die immediately. Those who will fast ot the end will survive, because the Holy Ghost will save them and they will be close to God.

The greatest and the angriest will strike against the mightiest and hte most furious! When this horrible war starts, woe to those armies that fly over skies; better off will be those who fight on the ground and water.

People waging this war will have their scientists who will invent different and strange cannonballs. When they explode, these cannon balls instead of killing will cast a spell over all that lives?people armies and livestock. This spell will make them sleep, and sleep they will instead of fighting, and after this they will come back to their senses.

We will not fight in this war, but others will do battle over our heads. Burning people will fall from the sky over Pozega. Only one country at the end of the world , surrounded by great seas as big as our Europe will live in peace without trouble. Those who will run and hid in the mountains with three crosses will find shelter and will be saved to live after in abundance, happiness and love, because there will be no more wars."
www.nexusmagaine.com    Jan-Feb 2006, page 82.

Ken pointed out meme wars, that is the most pressing problem we have on earth...the radical unconsciousness.

In WIE March-May 2006 Ken says "Meditation has a profound impact on the average level of consciousness in the world...how does it work?...The subject of one stage becomes the object of the next. So what happens when you meditate, and this is probably why meditation has been demonstrated to move people through stages, is that basically you're looking at your own mind...The only thing that can't be made an object I-I, or the pure Witness, or God...You are changing the fundamental fabric of the cosmos when you meditate."

Sure when you meditate you are less likely to go out and start wars, but the people that are engaging in war are using a personal God to undertake their territorial and resource battles...these people probably pray to their God, even if they don't meditate. To prevent these wars, we are better off eliminating the "idea" of God from the human race completely, and getting people up to the rational level of self-responsibility...will meditation do this? Religion tends to brain damage people into illogical, irrational, subrational and unconscious behavior.

Our meditation is not going to stop the evil ones from spreading radiation over the planet. Meditation is not going to stop war...stopping war I think is our most pressing spiritual agenda, because so much capital and resources are spent on destruction that little is left for creative technological and infrastructure advancement...and EDUCATION. Militarism is a sickness and should be addressed and treated as a sickness...like irrational mythic religious belief systems it should not be tolerated by a compassionate awake humanity...
Will meditation get us to this point?

Will sideling up to archaic religions and pandering to their brain damaging memes stop ongoing territory and resource wars. I doubt it.
Our meditation does little than to calm our nervous system down as we live in ongoing pandamonium caused by human beings that have never learnt to use their minds in constructive ways.
It is vision and visionary capacity that will save humanity...if meditation helps us to do this, and to put our visions into action, only then will meditation be a benefit to man instead of a tranquilizer that allows evil to continue ad infinitium.

[jimtzu]

Sure when you meditate you are less likely to go out and start wars, but the people that are engaging in war are using a personal God to undertake their territorial and resource battles...these people probably pray to their God, even if they don't meditate. To prevent these wars, we are better off eliminating the "idea" of God from the human race completely, and getting people up to the rational level of self-responsibility...will meditation do this? Religion tends to brain damage people into illogical, irrational, subrational and unconscious behavior.

Joseph Campbell used to use the term impersonal God when talking with his religious friends.  it's a much better concept of getting closer to the source/mystery than the idea of God that has evolved out of the mythic religions.  one step closer anyways...  i like the phrase "self organizing dynamics" (SOD) which has a more organic feel to it and closer to the perspective of Tao that has shaped my life. 

[henry]

joe's first passion and fascination were native american peoples, gym sox. at the risk of trying to sound like the forrest gump of heartmind, i met him before bill moyers. what a good man. so much to live up to ..henry....also an olympic athlete (?)...i just searched and joe lost in the olympic trials in the chariots of fire days

[Jana]

I love Sod, you should start a religion with that one. I like the term causality. Thing is each human does have a personal relationship with causality or "self organizing dynamics" (Sod)...and no matter how much we discuss it your Sod is always going to be different from mine. Saying your Sod is better than my Sod is where the wars start.

Tshirt: My Sod is unique in all the universe, as is your Sod.

[jimtzu]

the Sod that can be spoken is not the true Sod.   

everyone has a personal relationship with everything, or at least they should.  the trouble, like you say, is the exclusivity that we think the old white bearded watchmaker/dictator in the sky has with us or "our" kind. once we see that everything is inter-connected, then we only make war on ourselves/brothers. 

getting centered thru meditation, in whatever form, leads to mindful awareness and the realization of "that what you do to the least of you, you do to me"

run henry, run 

[henry]

so much love sioux and heartmind..lets go..

[Jana]

Jimztu: "the trouble, like you say, is the exclusivity that we think the old white bearded watchmaker/dictator in the sky has with us or "our" kind. once we see that everything is inter-connected, then we only make war on ourselves/brothers."

I was thinking today that I didn't have paranoia concerning myself during my awakenings, but I was driven into panic states through paranoia over my father and then concern for Ken also. I was kinda proud that I was selfless enough to only get paranoid for others, rather than fear for my own life as some people do during awakenings. However on looking more closely into this I see that my concern for the patriarch IS concern for myself afterall. Having not been fathered well I was still enmeshed with the archetypal father...still filled with his weakness rather than his strength. When people are able to see their preoccupation with an anthropomorphosized God as a lack of sovereign maturity, then we can leave the personal God behind. I think this journey into becoming a child of the Self Organizing Dynamic Universe (SODU) will take many centuries unless we actively start social education-reformation movements along these lines.

Thus strangely the way to move into complete sovereignty (cosmic unity) is to love beyond even the belief in loving the Lord Thy Father with all ones heart, mind and soul. Thus we move into a lived objectivity which defies ourself as form and memory, and yet is the ultimate expression of the form of our SOD.

The Inner Arts that I have developed are a more direct way to deal with shadow than meditation. Meditation can allow you to actually avoid the consequences of your reality in the body. I think that the Inner Arts Practice which reincorporates blocks, cutoff places and deadened areas back into the organism-total to be the main practice toward building enough superconducting energy to be impervious to the lower energies and tricks of the consensus trance (duality). Our beliefs have a material-energetic component in our bodyminds, they are not just favorite mental pathways. Many of our beliefs are unconscious.


"So people can be relatively enlightened in certain traditions but have shadow elements that are quite shocking, because there is no way meditation can get at them. I use several ways to get at that shadow, but one is a process that we developed at Integral Institute called 3-2-1 (as in third person, second person, first person.) There are two versions of this practice. In the morning when you wake up, you think of a dream and think of the element in the dream that's the most disturbing?it could be the most attractive, most positive, or most negative. So that's a third-person object or "other." Now, most psychodynamic theories agree that these elements that disturb us are parts of our own finite selves that we haven't come to terms with; we've repressed them or projected them and they appear as other. Your finite self has split something off from itself and that shadow element will screw you up all the way to enlightenment and back, because there's no way to get at it. So in the morning you simply take one of these elements and hold it in front of you and talk to it. Now it becomes second person, then the next step is to make it first person, to identify with it, to actually speak from that place. "I am the monster," and so on. That is a very good way to help you get out of the victim mode, because one of the primary ways you get into the victim mode is by projecting some aspect of yourself that you hate outside of yourself, and then it attacks you all the time and you can't figure out why. So that is the 3-2-1 process. You can also do it at the end of the day?take an event, thing, or person that upset you and follow the same process." Ken Wilber, WIE March-may 2006

[jimtzu]

The Inner Arts that I have developed are a more direct way to deal with shadow than meditation. Meditation can allow you to actually avoid the consequences of your reality in the body. I think that the Inner Arts Practice which reincorporates blocks, cutoff places and deadened areas back into the organism-total to be the main practice toward building enough superconducting energy to be impervious to the lower energies and tricks of the consensus trance (duality). Our beliefs have a material-energetic component in our bodyminds, they are not just favorite mental pathways. Many of our beliefs are unconscious.

meditation can allow you to avoid problems with the body-mind, but on the positive side it can get you centered enough to deal with the "external" world in  a healthy way.  something like your IAP or some other technique is also needed to heal the psyche and subconcious in order to become whole and well enough to evolve.  the way the SODU loves itself in order to complete the cycle and become one again, from the outside in.

[Jana]

Yea well like Ken was saying about meditation not really addressing shadow...the IAP is actually a meditation on the reality of unconscious areas (blockages) in the body...that relate to socioemotional patterns of response and adaptation. This inner massage or meditation is a practice of "knowing thyself" such that we both register our condition, as well as growing the nervous system and sensitivity for an ongoing deeper exploration of knowing thyself. With IAP you have immediate feedback to grok just how well adjusted to ones environment one is...also with this palpation of numbness/pain/closure/voidness we have a tactile, kinesthetic understanding of what we are doing to ourselves with our consciousness...and by extension of this, we grok what we are doing to others in our world as well. There really is nothing that is so immediate and direct in the inner discovery of both light and dark. IAP will all be up on my website in a few weeks.


Good nonrelated video at google called Atoms to Infinity.

[jimtzu]

jana, looking forward to seeing your IAP on your site. perhaps you can give us a brief description beforehand.

couldn't find Atoms to infinity on google.. is that the right title? who's it by?

jim

[Jana]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7504093836714128385  ?Atoms to X-rays
Lots of material from David Hunter Tow at videogoogle, nice simply astrophysics.  www.theoriesofeverything.com

With regards to the shadow, hidden or dark side of life, actually the dieoffs/darknights we experience are NOT a loss of Grace...God (or "Self Organizing Dynamic" SOD) is always animating us even when our chemistry does its hyperbolic descent into the underworld...when Spirit seems to descend deeply into matter and the initiate might react in some kind of terror then helplessness, dejection, desolation, desperation, despondency and finally to restitution, resurrection, redemption and deliverance. Grace is just more apparent when it is "flowing towards us" and readily available, than when we have to "work" for it. The trick is that when Grace is readily available do not shy away but to "Suck up the Grace!" and this will give you the biological faith (good will) to move "into" the descent of the chemistry wave as well. To fight both the ascent and the descent of the wave is resistance to awakening and reality.


INNER ARTS PRACTICE
THE 3 STEPS Cardiomuscular Release, Psychospacial meditation, Neuroemotional Reprogramming (CMR, PSM, NER) are preliminary training for a much deeper JOURNEY called PsychoSomatic Release (PSR). The more you do the preparatory 3 steps and the journey the greater the POT OF GOLD (the amrita elixir) you are able to generate. A realignment therapy for achieving the Ground zero of emotional-neutral and transformational liberation from bodymind holding. Our critic and judge that is invested in keeping our body armor in a defensive holding pattern, is dissolved during this transformational work, thereby releasing us from our limitations, allowing us to embrace life anew.

[Jana]

"I have seen some people practice it a great deal, and then begin to lose all sense of purpose and direction. That always confused me. Does that mean the great spiritual leaders of our time did not deal so much with trying to "actively" reach enlightenment?"

Getting to ground zero (dropping the bodymind) with meditation is only the first step...that of establishing a connection to the Absolute. Then we also have to balance this dissolution with proactive developmental activity in thought, action, behavior. Becoming transcendent of the world and plugging into the cosmic umbilical via meditation should mean greater spiritual navigation and certainty as to what we are doing here on earth. However because we have not fully emerged from tribal no-self religious concepts and taken up the sword of sovereignty as individuals...this later step in progressive enlightenment is not yet being realized to any great degree in society. Thus people are using meditation as a defense against shadow and chaos and as an analgesic against the pain and suffering of themselves and the world, but they are not fulfilling the spiritual promise of active participation in the cocreation of reality.

[Jana]

I do appreciate Crowley for his blatent look at humanity, which is essential for maturity, but he wasn't a visionary as far as I can see, so all one is left with is a cynical appraisal of reality...which is only the first step of cocreation.



Q: One interesting thing I have run into during some of my voyages is the sense of injustice that accompanies the pain body and its need to validate its existence; in other words, to perpetually feed itself by generating anger over injustice that it perceives in the world.  I have habitually done this in the past as more of a nervous tic (although I may be a bit more evolved, as I turned to fictional stories for this outlet, the really well crafted ones, instead of mainstream news), and have gotten to know this mechanism fairly well.

   I remember Julius Evola speaking extensively on this, that if you can help someone, do so; otherwise, detach yourself.  In spite of some of the negativity of his philosophy he did recognize the uselessness of holding anger over a sense of injustice.

   But what is interesting is that once this mechanism is transcended, what appears to lie beyond it is the capacity to have a deep appreciation for things rather than a defensive warlike stance toward them.  You can look at anything and value it, regardless of what it is or what social judgments would be concerning it.  This I believe is key to recovering the inner child.

Hi ,
What books does Julius Evola speak on this?
Reading Alice Miller one gets the impression that premature forgiveness for injustice does us no good either, it just increases the repression of our injustice against abuse. I suggest you read...The Drama of the Gifted Child and Breaking Down the Wall of Silence by Alice Miller.

You see the human brain has developed to remember harm (injustice) and so we have to apply a scientific method for getting over damage that was done to us. The sense of injustice follows a similar sequence to say the stages of grief, and if we do not apply ourselves to running through these stages in a conscious fashion then we will be caught up in the painful beginning stages of recriminations mind.

1. First we should find an objective fair-witness that we can speak out to as soon as it is "safe" for us o do so. And genuinely grieve if we can. We should turn the light on all the repressive mechanisms we use to run from the pain of injustice and abuse.
2. We should develop the social and energetic skills to address the perpetrator personally if we can, by simply expressing the harm that was done to us, or filing some legal action...or helping the perpetrator get over their guilt.
3. We should actively campaign for the rights of others either through polictical action, counseling others, public speaking, charity, volunteer service etc... This should be a hands on engagement of our passion and interest.
4. We should see how ignorant and messed up we are as a species and learn to understand in an objective fashion that human failing is inevitable. Then we should put our efforts into proactive positive education and spiritual service to the masses in which we are no longer fighting the negative, but affirming and facilitating the positive.

The injustice recriminations mind never completely goes away. I am pretty sure we have to really work at it. Part of accomplishing this is I think building up patterns of spiritual relationship and response that allow one to navigate social interaction with increased success...(Voice Dialogue, Non-violent Communication, Shadow 3-2-1). I am presenly working on the laws of "Proactive Social Engagement." If we are weak and complain about imbalanced compensation for our efforts then we will only receive less abundance and appreciaion. We have to strive to give more and more "spirit" with less and less regard for recompense. This is a spiriual challenge that will transform us from a wily commercial trader into a truly radiant giver of spirit.

The criminations mind loves to feed on scenarios of injustice to ourselves or injustice in the world. Thus the judge that sits in our cerebellum in the back of our head can divert the majority of our energy that should go into our prefrontal lobes for objective planning, vision and action. If we are having trouble with the usurping judge we must catch ourselves and pull our energy forward into progressive vision and up into the crown for transcendence. If we don't do this then all we get is more reasons to feel self-pity, anger, injustice, hatred and retribution. Therefore injustice in the world is faught in the 3 inches from the back of our brain to the front of our brain.

[jimtzu]

the four stages you present are good for addressing "true" injustices, and there are plenty of them out there in the world.
the problem is that there are a lot of people who let the judging part of their pscyhe take over and the ego contractions that result are an endless parade of excuses and rationalizations of why everything "happens to them" leaving them helpless and unwilling to participate in their own lives.